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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 7309133" data-attributes="member: 3400">I think this is an issue where you have to look at the rules and apply a modicum of sense to them. If you're holding a magic staff, rod, wand, orb, (or toilet seat for all I care) while casting a spell and getting a bonus on your spell attack rolls - you're pretty much using it as a magical focus. I'd say the rules pretty much imply that. I'd also say they imply you can't get a similar bonus from any other one of those devices you have in your possession since you're not using it as your spellcasting focus and can't use more than one as spellcasting focii - assuming you can even cast the spell while holding multiple things rather than having to leave one hand free for somatic components.Really, it's a spellcaster's equivalent of a magical weapon. Don't try to rules lawyer multiple bonuses just because you've managed to hoard all of the spell focus-appropriate gear your group has come across and the rules aren't explicit in keeping your bonus begging impulses under control.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 7309133, member: 3400"] I think this is an issue where you have to look at the rules and apply a modicum of sense to them. If you're holding a magic staff, rod, wand, orb, (or toilet seat for all I care) while casting a spell and getting a bonus on your spell attack rolls - you're pretty much using it as a magical focus. I'd say the rules pretty much imply that. I'd also say they imply you [b]can't[/b] get a similar bonus from any other one of those devices you have in your possession since you're not using it as your spellcasting focus and can't use more than one as spellcasting focii - assuming you can even cast the spell while holding multiple things rather than having to leave one hand free for somatic components. Really, it's a spellcaster's equivalent of a magical weapon. Don't try to rules lawyer multiple bonuses just because you've managed to hoard all of the spell focus-appropriate gear your group has come across and the rules aren't explicit in keeping your bonus begging impulses under control. [/QUOTE]

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