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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 8302354" data-attributes="member: 27996">Yes, Nic Kelman got fired. But he cost WOTC money, and made fans mad. At the same time. So no surprise.Of course I could be totally wrong, but why I am fairly confident we will see no DL for 5e:The last time WOTC toyed with bringing the DL setting back, they wanted to do a reboot of the setting for 4e.They asked Jim Butcher to do a novelization for it, but the ended up bowing out because DL was still seen as Hickman and Weiss's baby, even though WOTC is the IP holder:[URL unfurl="true"]http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/63756[/URL]"Jim Butcher: ... That was actually something that ...Wizards of the Coast had approached me of maybe doing a reboot of DRAGONLANCE....Jim Butcher: Tracy and Margaret are the reason I ended up not doing that. I’d gone to them and said, “I think this is a fantastic idea! I’ve got a lot of a whole bunch of really good ideas of how this would work out.” I’d already started building all these characters and re-read the first book and was trying to figure out how to do that a little bit different. And I said, “Tracy and Margaret are okay with this, right?” And I got all these weasely answers from the far end and I’m like “No, screw you guys. If this is something that’s not kosher with Tracy and Margaret, it’s not going to happen.” And then 4th Edition crashed and they had more problems than that. And they were expecting 4th Edition to go insane and it HAD gone insane already, they just didn’t realize it. ..."And we haven't heard official hide nor hair from WOTC about D&D + DragonLance since.It is still worth remembering that Hickman and Weiss were the ones who did all the legwork to get the license from WOTC for their new books. Not the other way around.I feel that if DL is to come back as a setting for D&D; WOTC wants to do it on their terms, without the specter of Hickman and Weiss fandom hanging over them.IMHO we will only see anything DL for 5e if the new novels generate crazy sales. That would be a market signal to WOTC that there is real cash on the table for a 5e setting.Ironically, if the new books totally bomb, that would tell WOTC that if they want to revisit DL as a D&D setting in a few years that they would be free to do so on their terms, with little to no pushback from grognard DL fans...While I agree with your assessment. If WOTC thought that they were doing the right thing when it came to Oriental Adventures, then they should have applied the same standard to the Monk.It sends the wrong message: Ok to take action on an out of print book. But even though it has all the same issues; don't touch the Monk core class lest some grognard light up twitter for a few days. It is a total double standard.  (Can't upset the 5e gravy train $$$...)But the time for meaningful action is gone and past, so probably not worth harping on.</blockquote>

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