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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8305496" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Here's the irony I see about Greyhawk and Dragonlance as classical settings right now:</p><p></p><p>The people who don't think WotC should/would/could do them are using the reasoning of "they are generic fantasy no different than Forgotten Realms"... which says a lot about just how little they probably know about all three. Because while they indeed start with our knowledge of prototypical D&D medieval fantasy (the "genre" of Dungeons & Dragons)... all three come at it from different directions and as the hardcore adherents of each of them have pointed out, they all have very specific things they focus on and are concerned with. Which makes all three actually very different thematically. Not as easily "elevator pitched" due to a different genre (like Eberron or Dark Sun)... but if you actually deep dive into them all, you know they aren't the same by a longshot.</p><p></p><p>However... the <em>problem</em> we will face is that any book they do for Greyhawk and/or Dragonlance is going to be a single volume, just like they've done for every other one. Which means what we'll actually get is a lot of surface-level setting material, and not the deep-dive that our proponents know about, care about, and proselytize about. As a result... those players probably won't be happy with what gets made because it won't be able to nearly match the wealth of material that has been written for them over the decades. And for new players? They might find the settings interesting (or they might not, just like any setting book released)... but because that will be their first and perhaps only way into them... they are going to run up against all the traditionalists who might very well poo-poo the book and we'll end up with a Greyhawk or Dragonlance culture war.</p><p></p><p>Personally... this is why seeing the classical settings get a 5E book never mattered to me... because I already know and/or have the decades of material already made for them-- meaning that anything put in a 5E book would be a pale shadow of the full setting. And the only reason to have a 5E book made would be to have an easy on-ramp for newer players to learn about it and maybe even fall in love with it. But if the traditionalists thumb their noses at the new book... then the whole hope and purpose of making it in the first place will have failed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8305496, member: 7006"] Here's the irony I see about Greyhawk and Dragonlance as classical settings right now: The people who don't think WotC should/would/could do them are using the reasoning of "they are generic fantasy no different than Forgotten Realms"... which says a lot about just how little they probably know about all three. Because while they indeed start with our knowledge of prototypical D&D medieval fantasy (the "genre" of Dungeons & Dragons)... all three come at it from different directions and as the hardcore adherents of each of them have pointed out, they all have very specific things they focus on and are concerned with. Which makes all three actually very different thematically. Not as easily "elevator pitched" due to a different genre (like Eberron or Dark Sun)... but if you actually deep dive into them all, you know they aren't the same by a longshot. However... the [I]problem[/I] we will face is that any book they do for Greyhawk and/or Dragonlance is going to be a single volume, just like they've done for every other one. Which means what we'll actually get is a lot of surface-level setting material, and not the deep-dive that our proponents know about, care about, and proselytize about. As a result... those players probably won't be happy with what gets made because it won't be able to nearly match the wealth of material that has been written for them over the decades. And for new players? They might find the settings interesting (or they might not, just like any setting book released)... but because that will be their first and perhaps only way into them... they are going to run up against all the traditionalists who might very well poo-poo the book and we'll end up with a Greyhawk or Dragonlance culture war. Personally... this is why seeing the classical settings get a 5E book never mattered to me... because I already know and/or have the decades of material already made for them-- meaning that anything put in a 5E book would be a pale shadow of the full setting. And the only reason to have a 5E book made would be to have an easy on-ramp for newer players to learn about it and maybe even fall in love with it. But if the traditionalists thumb their noses at the new book... then the whole hope and purpose of making it in the first place will have failed. [/QUOTE]
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