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Read or Die

Wow. Harsh, man.

[spoiler ahead]

Read or Die is one of the slickest anime movies I've seen. Who cares if the Japanese want to say the American president is a silly person? It's not like we don't make fun of the Japanese every once in a while. I was pretty miffed at the betrayal too, but ended up pleasantly surprised by the explanation.

I think it's a solid movie. Really fun to watch, filled with visually and thematically interesting fights. And I mean, c'mon. Beethoven works for the villain. How much cooler could you be?

Well, maybe if Shakespeare was the main villain.
 

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enworldatemylogin said:
I remembered seeing the term read or die recently, but I was thinking maybe I got confused with vote or die or some crap similar to it. I'd have to say it didn't matter.

The Cartoon Network just finished airing a two hour movie, midnight to 2 AM on the west coast. It started as interesting, but the movie was an hour too long in my opinion. Gee, let's make the American President wet his pants every time he's on scene. That probably wouldn't have phased me if not for the no good reason Deep Bosom betrayal and lame...oh nevermind. I'm gonna go burn some books.
Book burning?...oh my gawd, there was a movie back then, with that frame of reference.
Blast, the name escapes me.

And oh, I like it too...tough Agent Paper :)
 
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It was one of the best new anime I've seen in a while. the animation was good, the story didnt make sense (I still dont know who the main villian was) but that didnt ruin it for me.
 

I'm not a big anime fan, but both of my sons are, and in the spirit of solidarity I watched "Read or Die" with my youngest son last night.

My prejudices up front: I really hate the whole "superhuge eyes, teeny-tiny mouth" look of most anime. Also, perhaps my ears aren't too discerning, but it seems to me like there's one woman in the entire world who does just about all of the English anime dubs: Agent Paper sounded exactly like that schoolgirl chick on Inuyasha and exactly like half a dozen other female anime characters I could name if I was up on anime enough to actually know their names.

That aside, I have to give "Read or Die" some credit: I was very impressed with the actual animation itself. It was very detailed, very intricate, and there were things animated that many studios probably wouldn't have bothered with. Agent Paper putting her shoes on in the morning using just her feet, and missing a few times; Agent Paper talking on the phone and taking notes in a notebook, and reaching across to reposition the phone. There were lots of scenes where pieces of paper were blowing around, and they all seemed to be pretty much following their own, separate paths (as opposed to the same few sheets cycled over and over). Very impressive. And I absolutely loved that giant grasshopper.

That said, can anybody explain just what the hell was the plot of the movie? It started off with "various clones of historical figures are stealing important books from all over the world, and a team of paranormal librarians has to stop them." Then, three-fourths of the way in, they dropped that plotline and all of a sudden it was "they have to stop the clone of Beethoven from entering orbit in a rocket and playing a really depressing organ piece that will cause the entire Earth population to commit suicide."

Okay, first: WTF? Does that make a whole lot of sense to anybody? What was the significance of the stolen books? Why is Agent Paper, a young Japanese librarian living in Japan, working for a British dude who apparently has control over all of the United States armed services? I get the fact that Agent Paper can telekinetically move paper around with her mind, but how the hell does she get it to stop bullets and take the form of a sword powerful enough to stop what looks to be the equivalent of an electric lightsaber? Where'd that grasshopper man come from, and why did the giant grasshopper have such a long, manipulative tongue?

I guess I just don't have the mindset for anime. My son tells me the most important lesson while watching anime is: "Accept, and move on." In other words, don't expect any of the crazy stuff to actually make any sense.

I think I'll stick to Godzilla movies.

Johnathan
 

"There is great chaos under Heaven, and the situation is excellent."

The plot almost makes sense if you assume that a messy book might contain DNA. In this case, Beethoven's DNA.

The historical personages were great. I really enjoyed Monkey as a bad guy. How often do you get to see a demigod fight?

Visuals in general: spectacular.

The steam/bio/laser tech issue: maybe laser beam auto-fire systems are easy to build in a secret lab, but electric linear actuators are really tough... that's not a plot hole though, it's just a strange combination.

Plot holes include why the silly launch platform had to surface from the ocean in one place and then float to another. If they'd wanted a steam-tech train battle, why not have the rocket launch from an equatorial location on land, but have it be built somewhere else, and then have it be transported overland via train?

Another plot hole IMHO is: why do you need a full army control structure to support two agents? Operations should be either "secret" (a couple of agents) or "full tactical support" (more than two agents). Would it have hurt them so much to have more than two people on the airplane?

The whole thing felt cramped -- like they were trying to fit two season's worth of stuff into a two-hour movie.

Anyway, the upshot is: it made very little sense, and I want more.

-- N
 


Sadly we probably won't see RoD the TV show since G4TV has acquired it. So all we'll get is the OVA.

In any event very pleased to see Read or Die. I was only slightly confused (until I checked with my anime sources at ANN), about who the other monk guy was.

And yes the plot is a little clunky and has some BIG holes. But hey man, I loved the fight in the Ganjus! That's like wicked cool.

Agent Paper rocked.

But can anyone be sure WHICH Deep/Nancy we got back? I mean was it the one on the rocket or the one that was at the bottom?
 

I tuned in to watch Inuyasha, so this surprised me. :) But I really enjoyed Read or Die. Very odd, but alot of fun to watch.

But will Inuyasha be back anytime soon?
 

Background Info

Since I'm pretty lazy, this site describes all
the Ijin in the OVA.

SPOILERS

http://www.readordie.org/reference.php


Basically, the plot was the derivative "Oh boo
hoo, corrupt world, must wipe it clean so that
our (cloning) tech can repopulate it with a better
vision - OURS."

Wasn't there a rumor they wanted to use more famous
Ijin but couldn't get permission? (Wright brothers
or Edison)

ROD TV ep. 13 basically explained the whole Ijin/British
Library connection thing. BEST RECAP EPISODE EVER.
 

Crusader,

Not until Nov 6. And then it's apparently starting from the end with "Terror of the Faceless Man."

Of course starting then and in place of Inuyasha along with Wolf's Rain, Fullmetal Alchemist and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, will be shown.

So Novemeber is rocking...even if they had to move off Trigun to fit in GitS:SAC and FMA. (Still think it's DAMN stupid to keep a comedy only block and NOT have an Action only block on Saturdays. It would make Toonami to Adult Swim transition THAT much cooler. In my veiw.)

But back to Inuyasha, my understanding is they'll start showing new eps again on Jan 5th and do it on it's weekday time. (Midnight EST.)
 

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