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Readied Action and Grapple

Demoquin

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Lets say the PC wants to ready an action against a charge. The goblin sees the PC and instead of charging ... he walks over. what happens to the Pc's action?

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PC readies action for said goblin to come within 5' of the PC. Does the PC get an AoO for the goblin entering a threatened area ands then gets his full attack option?



If a Grappler has more than one attack due to BAB or Flurry of Blows, does the grapple check get the normal -5 for each additional attempt?

Ex ... Fighter with +9/+4 AB Grpl +7

Does he grapple at +7 each attempt or +7 and +2.
Would a monk only get the normal -3 instead of -5?
 

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Demoquin said:
Lets say the PC wants to ready an action against a charge. The goblin sees the PC and instead of charging ... he walks over. what happens to the Pc's action?

It's lost. If the specified triggering event doesn't occur before his next scheduled initiative turn rolls around, the ready expires unused and he takes his regular turn.

Demoquin said:
PC readies action for said goblin to come within 5' of the PC. Does the PC get an AoO for the goblin entering a threatened area ands then gets his full attack option?

Only a single standard action can be readied, and entering a threatened area doesn't provoke AoO's, so he gets just one attack when the goblin closes. If he has reach (eg. is large, or using a spiked chain), then he does get his AoO from the goblin leaving the space at 10', plus the readied action if it triggers. Assuming, in this case, that the stated condition was "the goblin gets within 10' ", then the readied action will happen first, as it's triggered when the goblin enters the square, but the AoO isn't provoked until it leaves the square. (This is a great time for a Trip. :) )

Demoquin said:
If a Grappler has more than one attack due to BAB or Flurry of Blows, does the grapple check get the normal -5 for each additional attempt?

Ex ... Fighter with +9/+4 AB Grpl +7

Does he grapple at +7 each attempt or +7 and +2.
Would a monk only get the normal -3 instead of -5?

Yes, and maybe. It's no clearer in D&D 3 than in 3.5 whether grappling monks count their attacks as unarmed, and thus get the benefit of additional flurry attacks and (in 3.0) their more favorable secondary attack bonus progression. Personally, I'd say yes--it's not like monks don't suck hard enough already, especially in 3.0.
 

Demoquin said:
Lets say the PC wants to ready an action against a charge. The goblin sees the PC and instead of charging ... he walks over. what happens to the Pc's action?

His readied action does not trigger; he takes his turn as normal the next time his turn comes up in the initiative order. He has effectively wasted a round, just like the archer who readies an action to "Shoot the wizard if he starts casting a spell" when the wizard doesn't cast a spell.

PC readies action for said goblin to come within 5' of the PC. Does the PC get an AoO for the goblin entering a threatened area ands then gets his full attack option?

There is no AoO for entering a threatened area; there is, rather, an AoO for leaving a threatened area. No AoO is provoked in this scenario (assuming no reach weapons, etc).

In addition, you can only ready a standard, move, or free action; the full attack action is a full round action, and cannot be readied. The PC in this scenario could only ready a single attack against the goblin.

If a Grappler has more than one attack due to BAB or Flurry of Blows, does the grapple check get the normal -5 for each additional attempt?

Ex ... Fighter with +9/+4 AB Grpl +7

Does he grapple at +7 each attempt or +7 and +2.
Would a monk only get the normal -3 instead of -5?

When you are grappling (regardless of who started the grapple), you can perform any of the following actions. Some of these actions take the place of an attack (rather than being a standard action or a move action). If your base attack bonus allows you multiple attacks, you can attempt one of these actions in place of each of your attacks, but at successively lower base attack bonuses.

Regarding the monk - are you playing 3E, or 3.5?

-Hyp.
 


Hyp and co pretty much summed it up, but a Q:

Demoquin said:
Lets say the PC wants to ready an action against a charge. The goblin sees the PC and instead of charging ... he walks over. what happens to the Pc's action?


If the ready action is stated as "Attack a foe that comes into reach" and a foe charges, is the weapon considered readied to receive a charge, for those that do extra damage v charges?

A reading of RAW seems to indicate no, since you ready to receive a charge or ready to hit someone that approaches you.

I'd be inclined to rule yes, although everyone can see that you are in a "ready to hit something" stance.
 


Dross said:
I'd be inclined to rule yes, although everyone can see that you are in a "ready to hit something" stance.

As a player, I'd prefer not to telegraph my upcoming actions to everyone within sight. Especially since I'm spending a standard action and changing my initiative to do so.

Readying for a charge is just like readying for an attack or to counterspell, but I'd require it to be stated specifically. I don't see readying to receive a charge as propping your spear on your foot and holding it out waiting, I rather see it as being prepared to do that should the triggering action occur.

If 'everyone can see' that you are readied to attack someone, who would go near you? Since ready is a very tactical action, it seem counterintuitive to force transparency upon it.
 

werk said:
Readying for a charge is just like readying for an attack or to counterspell, but I'd require it to be stated specifically. I don't see readying to receive a charge as propping your spear on your foot and holding it out waiting, I rather see it as being prepared to do that should the triggering action occur.

I've always seen this as the difference between The Thirteenth Warrior and Braveheart.

In The Thirteenth Warrior, they're using the Ready action to set spears against a charge. "Put your foot on it! And stand!" It's very clear that they have set spears.

In Braveheart, they're using the Ready action to ready the Ready action to set spears against a charge. "Hold! Hoooo-old! Now!" Until their first Readied action triggers, their spears are not set, so it's not clear what they have in mind...

-Hyp.
 

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