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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 4090465" data-attributes="member: 9037">I can understand that. There are topics that get brought up over and over again until it becomes so much background noise. I can see who you feel that way about realism. I am that way about hearing how 3.5 makes some characters useless. I tend to tune out and dismiss this now. Not that I don't think it is a topic worth discussing but because I believe that some pople bring in one or two negative experiences they have had with a bad DM and that colors the entire issue it is impossible to have any kind of rational discussion.I do think it would help the discussion though to accept if someone says no I don't feel this way because I have other issues about 4E. What is really starting to turn me from feeling neutrul about 4E and hoping it succeds to almost wishing it would fail is some of the rabid 4E people and their aggressiveness with people who don't agree with them. And the rabid anti 4E people are quickly turning me off as well.I told me roomate that I was getting to the point that I was just going to stop playing DnD for awhile and go back to shadowrun and spend time on Shadpwrun boards and she pointed out that the reason I left there was because of the infighting between people who like 3E and hated the change to 4E and vice versa. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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