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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 4091660" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>For me in my fantasy role playing I like a more gritty feel to the game. I like how fragile first level characters are. I like that magic users can run out of spells. I like DR and SR monsters. </p><p></p><p>I don't like the idea of tieflings being in the core rules a tiefling character should be rare and becuase of their hertiage a little more powerful than other races and have some kind of ECL.</p><p></p><p>So far what I have read makes be believe that 4E will not be to <strong>my taste</strong> or that of my group without some major houseruling going on. I intend to pick up the core books and read them. I may even run a one shot game to get the feel for the new edition. But I know I won't be switching any time soon. </p><p></p><p>Some of that is because of outside reasons like I am a new DM after eight years I just in the last year felt that I finally understood the rules enough to DM. I am not ready to tackle a new set of rules. </p><p></p><p>I am not saying that the designers are wrong or that the people who are looking forward to the changes are wrong. There is no right or wrong here just a matter of taste.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is like with 4E of Shadowrun it was not the rule changes that really turned me off there were some but they changed so much of the world and how magic works that I no longer felt as if I was playing in a Shadowrun world and yes I could house rule things back and at first we tried to do that in the end though most of the group felt why bother either play 4e or go back and play 3E. My shadowrun group split into two groups those who liked 4 and those who prefered 3. </p><p></p><p>I DM a 3.5 game but I also play in a 2E Forgotten Realms game. The DM of that game felt about 3.0 as some people do about 4E. He feels that 3.0/3.5 did not give him what he wanted in his fantasy role playing. He jokes that the only good thing about the switch is that noone is changing and adding to the rule set he plays with and he was able to pick up a lot of books he had wanted for a lot less money than when they were new. Something he pointed out to me at the last session that I will now find to be true since I am most likely not switching to 4E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 4091660, member: 9037"] For me in my fantasy role playing I like a more gritty feel to the game. I like how fragile first level characters are. I like that magic users can run out of spells. I like DR and SR monsters. I don't like the idea of tieflings being in the core rules a tiefling character should be rare and becuase of their hertiage a little more powerful than other races and have some kind of ECL. So far what I have read makes be believe that 4E will not be to [B]my taste[/B] or that of my group without some major houseruling going on. I intend to pick up the core books and read them. I may even run a one shot game to get the feel for the new edition. But I know I won't be switching any time soon. Some of that is because of outside reasons like I am a new DM after eight years I just in the last year felt that I finally understood the rules enough to DM. I am not ready to tackle a new set of rules. I am not saying that the designers are wrong or that the people who are looking forward to the changes are wrong. There is no right or wrong here just a matter of taste. It is like with 4E of Shadowrun it was not the rule changes that really turned me off there were some but they changed so much of the world and how magic works that I no longer felt as if I was playing in a Shadowrun world and yes I could house rule things back and at first we tried to do that in the end though most of the group felt why bother either play 4e or go back and play 3E. My shadowrun group split into two groups those who liked 4 and those who prefered 3. I DM a 3.5 game but I also play in a 2E Forgotten Realms game. The DM of that game felt about 3.0 as some people do about 4E. He feels that 3.0/3.5 did not give him what he wanted in his fantasy role playing. He jokes that the only good thing about the switch is that noone is changing and adding to the rule set he plays with and he was able to pick up a lot of books he had wanted for a lot less money than when they were new. Something he pointed out to me at the last session that I will now find to be true since I am most likely not switching to 4E. [/QUOTE]
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