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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4092333" data-attributes="member: 2525">I am not suggesting you tell someone they are behaving in an irrational manner, as of course that would result in a negative response (particularly if it is true).I am however saying that it should be fair to discuss the issue, in general, without focusing on a particular person.If you see a pattern and practice of a subset of people who, on the one hand: 1) detail a complaint about WOTC, corporate greed, the cost of new products, the short period of time between editions, anime influences, video game influences, and related issue (all of which may we be very cogent, rational, and logical contentions); and on the other hand those same people:2) declare ANY announced change in 4e to negatively impact their verisimilitude relative to 3e, even in cases where the change under discussion is incredibly minor compared to the high lack of realism concerning the underlying rule in both editions of D&D;Then I think it's fair to discuss that pattern and practice (in general) and speculate as to whether #1 is what is causing #2.  People who fall into that subset may actually pause and question if that might be the case, and if their verisimilitude complaints have maybe sometimes gone a bit overboard because of their anger about the other issues. You do not have to call those particular people out, or their particular posts out.  But, I do think it might be productive to have that sort of general discussion sometimes to see if it helps tone down some of the more outrageous verisimilitude posts.  And I felt this thread was one of those attempts to try and deal with the issue without calling anyone in particular to the carpet.</blockquote>

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