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<blockquote data-quote="Hexmage-EN" data-source="post: 8083827" data-attributes="member: 79428"><p>I personally greatly dislike 5E's default position that the Great Wheel is the one true cosmology and its gods the true gods, reducing all other gods and cosmologies into being veils that hide the truth of the Great Wheel from ignorant mortals. Even 4E didn't force all the campaign settings into the same cosmology with the same gods.</p><p></p><p>I'm not a big fan of the Forgotten Realms, but from what I understand Ao is the Overgod of that setting, right? The one who once forced the other gods recognized in the Forgotten Realms out of their home planes to walk Toril? Is he also the Overgod of the D&D Multiverse, or is his authority limited to only the Material Plane of the Forgotten Realms? What of the gods like Lolth who were forced to manifest on Toril during the Time of Troubles? Was she trapped on Toril and unable to affect any other world for a time? If Ao is only all powerful in the Material Plane of the Realms why do the gods bother with a single world dominated by someone who outclasses them when they could go elsewhere?</p><p></p><p>For a more recent example, if all Material Planes share the same Feywild and Shadowfell why does the Raven Queen of Exandria not resemble the Raven Queen described in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes in the slightest? Does accessing the Shadowfell from Exandria alter how people perceive the Raven Queen and her realm, or what?</p><p></p><p>I don't see the value in insisting that there's one true cosmology and set of beings in the planes in a game where a given DM's campaign could end with Tiamat or Demogorgon destroyed or some other major shake-up that would affect the entire multiverse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hexmage-EN, post: 8083827, member: 79428"] I personally greatly dislike 5E's default position that the Great Wheel is the one true cosmology and its gods the true gods, reducing all other gods and cosmologies into being veils that hide the truth of the Great Wheel from ignorant mortals. Even 4E didn't force all the campaign settings into the same cosmology with the same gods. I'm not a big fan of the Forgotten Realms, but from what I understand Ao is the Overgod of that setting, right? The one who once forced the other gods recognized in the Forgotten Realms out of their home planes to walk Toril? Is he also the Overgod of the D&D Multiverse, or is his authority limited to only the Material Plane of the Forgotten Realms? What of the gods like Lolth who were forced to manifest on Toril during the Time of Troubles? Was she trapped on Toril and unable to affect any other world for a time? If Ao is only all powerful in the Material Plane of the Realms why do the gods bother with a single world dominated by someone who outclasses them when they could go elsewhere? For a more recent example, if all Material Planes share the same Feywild and Shadowfell why does the Raven Queen of Exandria not resemble the Raven Queen described in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes in the slightest? Does accessing the Shadowfell from Exandria alter how people perceive the Raven Queen and her realm, or what? I don't see the value in insisting that there's one true cosmology and set of beings in the planes in a game where a given DM's campaign could end with Tiamat or Demogorgon destroyed or some other major shake-up that would affect the entire multiverse. [/QUOTE]
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