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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8083837" data-attributes="member: 7015558"><p>Good questions! They don't all have clear answers, but I'll do my best.</p><p></p><p>Ao is indeed the Overgod of Forgotten Realms, but he is only the overgod of FR, nowhere else in the Material Plane. He has no influence in Greyhawk, Eberron, or any other world on the Material Plane.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Lolth, it looks like during the Time of Troubles she did manifest on Toril... it is unclear if she was truly trapped there. I would say no, but that Lolth was unable to influence Toril specifically anymore than her mortal manifestation there. I think she probably maintained he true form back in the Abyss concurrently.</p><p>I hesitate to comment too much on the cosmology on any time period based before 5E, as how the cosmology works then would be different to the new assumption. </p><p></p><p>As to why a god like Bane would bother with Toril when they are outclassed, I would say the biggest explanation is that it is hard to start a new church, from scratch, on another world. Gods need followers, and moving from one to another can be difficult. Some gods manage it, like Tiamat and Bahamut, others can't.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I do believe that based on what world you live on impacts how you perceive gods that appear on multiple worlds. So your Raven Queen example applies, but so does that of Tiamat who is also Takhisis in Dragonlance, and was even killed there. Despite literally losing her life on Dragonlance she continues to be worshiped on Toril and Exandria, and maintains her form on Avernus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 8083837, member: 7015558"] Good questions! They don't all have clear answers, but I'll do my best. Ao is indeed the Overgod of Forgotten Realms, but he is only the overgod of FR, nowhere else in the Material Plane. He has no influence in Greyhawk, Eberron, or any other world on the Material Plane. In the case of Lolth, it looks like during the Time of Troubles she did manifest on Toril... it is unclear if she was truly trapped there. I would say no, but that Lolth was unable to influence Toril specifically anymore than her mortal manifestation there. I think she probably maintained he true form back in the Abyss concurrently. I hesitate to comment too much on the cosmology on any time period based before 5E, as how the cosmology works then would be different to the new assumption. As to why a god like Bane would bother with Toril when they are outclassed, I would say the biggest explanation is that it is hard to start a new church, from scratch, on another world. Gods need followers, and moving from one to another can be difficult. Some gods manage it, like Tiamat and Bahamut, others can't. And yes, I do believe that based on what world you live on impacts how you perceive gods that appear on multiple worlds. So your Raven Queen example applies, but so does that of Tiamat who is also Takhisis in Dragonlance, and was even killed there. Despite literally losing her life on Dragonlance she continues to be worshiped on Toril and Exandria, and maintains her form on Avernus. [/QUOTE]
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