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<blockquote data-quote="DumbPaladin" data-source="post: 5522677" data-attributes="member: 90770"><p>I do disagree -- the moderators should never violate the rules they expect everyone else to follow. Frequent violation of rules by moderators strip them of any moral credibility when attempting to enforce said rules.</p><p></p><p>But setting up a dichotomy of rules they are to follow is neither realistic nor likely to be successful. People simply don't make decisions to behave following "rule set A" when wearing the hat of a person of authority, but "rule set B" in every other aspect of their life: you need only look to real-life authority figures to determine that. </p><p></p><p>What, exactly, is to stop any moderator from insulting people in a thread when not using their "mod colours", as you put it? </p><p></p><p>Morrus has already stated that he sees nothing to improve in how moderation is handled. The moderators do not snipe at or take on each other publicly, and thus I find it extremely hard to believe that Moderator B would actually delete or redact an attack post by Moderator A in any public thread. </p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter whether a moderator is using in "moderator mode" or not: as a group, they're already above regulation and reprisal. The rules ONLY apply to them if they DECIDE to abide by them -- and that's all the time, not just some of the time. It's difficult, if not impossible, for people to hold themselves to different rules at different moments ... which is why people in authority regularly find themselves upholding their 'higher standards' all the time.</p><p></p><p>[MENTION=16212]wedgeski[/MENTION], while I honestly believe that while we may ultimately strongly disagree on this topic, I get the impression that it's possible you've just not seen this issue from the angle I've presented. If this all occurred to you and you still feel the way you do ... then we simply disagree. But in your first post in this topic, you said that you'd like to see <strong>zero </strong>change in EN World's moderation, and given that no one is perfect, and certainly no group of imperfect beings can <em>ever </em>be perfect ... I can't understand how anyone can suggest that there is no room for improvement, change, or growth. That statement is beyond my comprehension ... and I have felt that way each time someone else has made a similar statement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DumbPaladin, post: 5522677, member: 90770"] I do disagree -- the moderators should never violate the rules they expect everyone else to follow. Frequent violation of rules by moderators strip them of any moral credibility when attempting to enforce said rules. But setting up a dichotomy of rules they are to follow is neither realistic nor likely to be successful. People simply don't make decisions to behave following "rule set A" when wearing the hat of a person of authority, but "rule set B" in every other aspect of their life: you need only look to real-life authority figures to determine that. What, exactly, is to stop any moderator from insulting people in a thread when not using their "mod colours", as you put it? Morrus has already stated that he sees nothing to improve in how moderation is handled. The moderators do not snipe at or take on each other publicly, and thus I find it extremely hard to believe that Moderator B would actually delete or redact an attack post by Moderator A in any public thread. It doesn't matter whether a moderator is using in "moderator mode" or not: as a group, they're already above regulation and reprisal. The rules ONLY apply to them if they DECIDE to abide by them -- and that's all the time, not just some of the time. It's difficult, if not impossible, for people to hold themselves to different rules at different moments ... which is why people in authority regularly find themselves upholding their 'higher standards' all the time. [MENTION=16212]wedgeski[/MENTION], while I honestly believe that while we may ultimately strongly disagree on this topic, I get the impression that it's possible you've just not seen this issue from the angle I've presented. If this all occurred to you and you still feel the way you do ... then we simply disagree. But in your first post in this topic, you said that you'd like to see [B]zero [/B]change in EN World's moderation, and given that no one is perfect, and certainly no group of imperfect beings can [I]ever [/I]be perfect ... I can't understand how anyone can suggest that there is no room for improvement, change, or growth. That statement is beyond my comprehension ... and I have felt that way each time someone else has made a similar statement. [/QUOTE]
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