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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 6990818" data-attributes="member: 6801209">Exactly.Which is why quicken EB isn't really a problem.  Leave the damage to the fighter (especially after you cast foresight and haste on him).Sure.  More math for me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Though if sorcerer uses foresight, fighter can use his action surge..65 with avantage = .797588 * .7975 = 70.18204 / 70.18 = 2.9 turns to kill the fighter..65 with disadvantage = .42259d6 + 135 = 166.5 166.5 * .4425 = 73.68142 / 73.68 = 1.93Fighter with 2 action surges beats sorcerer with foresight.Sure.That will make the fighter not use sharpshooter.  (could potentially be replaced by +2 con, but meh, he's an archer built for damage)Ehh...  though there's no particular reason an archer couldn't just take the -10 speed penalty.And they might still have 15 str, depending on the race.  (sorcerer needs cha/dex/con, fighter can have dex/con/str).But sure.  Why not.  17 AC.I can do that too.  Assuming they start within 60'.  Hex is a bit short ranged.Though I'll have the fighter drop prone, which cancels out the sorcerer's advantage against him.And he will use precision strike this time, landing a few more hits.Sorcerer.7 accuracy4d10+4d6+20 * .7 = 39.2 (first turn)(8d10 + 8d6+40) * .7 = 78.4 (each additional turn)((204 -39.2) /78.4) + 1 =3.1 turns to kill the fighter.Fighter.65 (no sharpshooter) with disavantage = .42255d6+25 = 42.576.6 * .4425 = 18.8 (per turn)+ (4d6+20) * 2 action surges * .4425 = 30.09+ 1d6+5 *6 (precision strike) = 51(142-51-30) / 18.8 = 3.24 turns to kill the sorcerer.That's really close.  Particularly since fighter has +3 initiative.  Though I also didn't factor in crits either, so...Sorcerer wins.  Shield spell made the difference, paticularly since it lasts the whole round.  Hex helped a little too, but generally I would save the slot for shield.If only the fighter stuck with plate...4d10+4d6+20 * .65 = 36.4 (first turn)(8d10 + 8d6+40) * .65 = 72.8 (each additional turn)((204 -36.4) /72.8) + 1 =3.3 turns to kill the fighter.He would have won... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />It proves a quickened EB + shield spamming sorcerer is pretty much on par with an archer fighter.</blockquote>

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