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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3256369" data-attributes="member: 141">I'm trying to figure out how to replicate one of <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?posts/3253516/" target="_blank">Temenun's</a> spells:The [reflect] seed in the big thread doesn't apply to attacks, only spells:[sblock=Big thread version]Originally posted by Sepulchrave II[/sblock]The ELH version of the seed has a few peculiarities:The highlighted text indicates that the seed is virtually worthless as far as protecting against spells goes.  A single magic missile is enough to end the spell.  However, this reading leads to difficulties; why does it go on to say "all spell effects" if it will only protect against the first one?  Why would a permanent version of the spell (<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/spells/epicSpellReflection.htm" target="_blank">Epic Spell Reflection</a>) ever be devised if the protection ends with the first use?My suspicion is that the high lighted line is a mistake, although this is not given in the errata, and that spell reflection has unlimited use.  Although, unless the spell DC is very high, it will only protect against low level spells.  I have no idea what spell this is based on- it is a very different mechanic from spell turning, for instance.I also have no idea what spell the Reflect Attacks function is based on.  As I read it, the seed protects either spells (or spell like abilities) OR ranged attacks OR melee attacks.  I think being a spell (or SLA) trumps being a ranged attack; a melf's acid arrow counts as the former but not the latter. I don't think Temenun's spell should be able to protect against both ranged and melee attacks.  But I don't know- the exclusive OR is easily confused with the inclusive or, and the ELH seeds could be better written.If one were to write a non-epic suite of spells that reflect an increasing number of attacks (both ranged as well as melee attacks, but not spells or SLAs), how would one do it?  Given such a suite it should be possible to extrapolate a seed.  But at the moment I'm at a loss about how to go about it.[edit]In the Rules Forum I've asked <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?threads/184268/" target="_blank">Is there a spell that reflects attacks?</a> Hopefully something will turn up.[edit2]Not much response to the Rules thread.  Maybe <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?threads/184501/" target="_blank">Reflect Attack</a> will attract some more interest.</blockquote>

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