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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zerovoid" data-source="post: 273449" data-attributes="member: 283">Re: Interpreting ReincarnationUnder the interpretation that I am advocating, if you were a centaur and died, and were reincarnated again as something else, you would not still have the centaur's HD, since they are part of the properties of being a centaur.Also, since a centaur is ECL +4 (I think), if you died as a 5th level wizard, you wouldn't be able to gain any levels until you had enough experience to reach 10th level.  Then you could take a 6th level in wizard or whatever.  But, I suppose that there are problems with doing things this way that are more obvious when looking at a centaur being reincarnated as an elf or something.  Also, per the rules in the DMG, a player only gains the HD of their monstrous race if that race has more than one HD.  The elf as presented in the DMG is simply a Warrior 1, so no contradiction is introduced by substituting another character class for this one.All it really means to be a centaur is to have a centaur racial template, which would include things like stat bonuses and natural armor, and to have four levels in the Monstrous Humanoid class.  If you think that centaurs have these levels because the centaurs described in the MM already have some fighting experience, then a player reincarnated as a centuar shouldn't have these levels of Monstrous Humanoid, only the centaur stat bonuses.  If on the other hand, they have these four levels of Monstrous Humanoid because centaurs are just big and tough, then all centaurs should have them, whether they were reincarnated or not.  Maybe a solution would be to simple have the players next four levels be Monstrous Humanoid, so that eventually they will end up as a normal centaur.  Then you don't have to figure out what ECL the stats of a centaur are worth without the accompanying HD.</blockquote>

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