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<blockquote data-quote="ikos" data-source="post: 7813764" data-attributes="member: 6944231"><p>I'm finding truth in both you and Zapps' assertions:</p><p></p><p>PF2 is way to fiddly for it own good. Not unlike the playtest, making a character involves many meaningless choices. The feeling is not unlike being in a cereal aisle debating which variety of toasted flakes suits my fancy. They are all about the same, certainly nothing worth taking any serious amount of time deciding. The insignifigance of many choices makes the process less engaging than PF1 while remaining a longer process than 5E.</p><p></p><p>Yes, some of the choices in PF2 do matter, but not nearly enough to justify the time sink involved for many players with a life outside gaming and optimization boards. The monsters do absolutely shine though and the system itself does what I suspect it as designed to do - offer many options in core without any combination of them causing the system to crash. Agreed, give me Paizo's beasts, or those found in 3rd party 5e add-ons, any day of the week over the blandness of the standard monsters provided by 5e. Their blandess is eclipsed only by their non-threating nature at higher levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ikos, post: 7813764, member: 6944231"] I'm finding truth in both you and Zapps' assertions: PF2 is way to fiddly for it own good. Not unlike the playtest, making a character involves many meaningless choices. The feeling is not unlike being in a cereal aisle debating which variety of toasted flakes suits my fancy. They are all about the same, certainly nothing worth taking any serious amount of time deciding. The insignifigance of many choices makes the process less engaging than PF1 while remaining a longer process than 5E. Yes, some of the choices in PF2 do matter, but not nearly enough to justify the time sink involved for many players with a life outside gaming and optimization boards. The monsters do absolutely shine though and the system itself does what I suspect it as designed to do - offer many options in core without any combination of them causing the system to crash. Agreed, give me Paizo's beasts, or those found in 3rd party 5e add-ons, any day of the week over the blandness of the standard monsters provided by 5e. Their blandess is eclipsed only by their non-threating nature at higher levels. [/QUOTE]
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