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Release Day Second Edition Amazon Sales Rank

DragonBelow

Explorer
Looks like it's just behind the D&D PHB now in #2. I don't think it will overtake it, but it's good to see people still like PF. I will always be thankful to Paizo for keeping the OGL alive, and for providing support for a system I still enjoy, even if I prefer 5e.

I'm looking forward to getting my copy today.
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
Looks like it's just behind the D&D PHB now in #2. I don't think it will overtake it, but it's good to see people still like PF. I will always be thankful to Paizo for keeping the OGL alive, and for providing support for a system I still enjoy, even if I prefer 5e.

I'm looking forward to getting my copy today.
Yup, PF2 Core is up to 171 among all books, while the 5E PHB is at 86 for today. The Beastiary passed ahead of the Young Adventurers books to 11tg place in Fantasy Gaming.
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
Oh, snap, PF2 Core has risen to 56 in books, and taken number 1 in Fantasy Gaming, while the Beastiary pushed past Volo's Guide for number 8.
 

Morrus

Administrator
Staff member
Oh, snap, PF2 Core has risen to 56 in books, and taken number 1 in Fantasy Gaming, while the Beastiary pushed past Volo's Guide for number 8.
I'm sure it's temporary, and I don't have shares in either company so their sales figures don't affect me in any way, but it's worth noting with a screenshot because it's so unusual!

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MerricB

Eternal Optimist
I'm sure it's temporary, and I don't have shares in either company so their sales figures don't affect me in any way, but it's worth noting with a screenshot because it's so unusual!
Does Paizo have shares? :)

It's a notable moment.

Must say, the "P2" designation throws me. I keep thinking it should be PF2.

Cheers!
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
I'm sure it's temporary, and I don't have shares in either company so their sales figures don't affect me in any way, but it's worth noting with a screenshot because it's so unusual!

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No stake here, beyond the state of the hobby: these sort of business numbers (like cinematic box office) are like a side hobby.
 

Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
Even though I'm more of a fan of 5e and the GLOG than pathfinder, I still think it's important that we have pathfinder in existence, as an option. The spectrum of D&D games wouldn't be complete without it IMO.
 

DaveMage

Slumbering in Tsar
Well, that didn't last very long. It has dropped back behind the 5-year-old D&D 5E Player's Handbook.
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
Well, that didn't last very long. It has dropped back behind the 5-year-old D&D 5E Player's Handbook.
Well, sure, that was bound to happen: it's not like 5E is going out of style any time soon. The Beastiary has fallen behind Volo's Guide to Monsters as well. Still, pretty good opening for a non-D&D brand RPG.
 

Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
Well the short spike is the keeners, the enthousiasts. Then there is going to be a slow trickle of current users. If the reviews are good, a fair amount will switch and sales will go up. If this is the best system since Gygax, then new users will jump on board.

So we will see :)
 

darjr

I crit!
It is as of this moment #183 in books. The PHB is #66.

I have to say I am happily surprised at their success. That's huge and I think a signal that there is an audience hungry for more complexity, even if it's not for me.

And the are so savy, they personally handed a deluxe fully autographed copy to Mathew Mercer.
 

zztong

Explorer
Well, that didn't last very long. It has dropped back behind the 5-year-old D&D 5E Player's Handbook.
This is based on current sales, or what?

If it is current sales then I'm surprised. I would have figured the market for the 5e PHB would be saturated by this time.
 

DaveMage

Slumbering in Tsar
This is based on current sales, or what?

If it is current sales then I'm surprised. I would have figured the market for the 5e PHB would be saturated by this time.
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Parmandur

Adventurer
This is based on current sales, or what?

If it is current sales then I'm surprised. I would have figured the market for the 5e PHB would be saturated by this time.
These rankings reflect current sales.

The 5E PHB has sold better each subsequent year since 2014, beyond not saturating they have been actively growing their audience. The 5E Starter box has actively pulled ahead again now, too, as people are still buying the five year old beginner package like hotcakes.

The Bestiary has fallen below Mordenkainen's Time of Does now, so all three 5E monster books are now currently outselling it on Amazon.
 

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