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<blockquote data-quote="Haffrung" data-source="post: 7871008" data-attributes="member: 6776259"><p>When it comes to RPGs, I don't think system matters as much as the obsessives who post about systems on forums think. I mean, they matter. But not at the granular level that people get in spats over on forums. When D&D Next came out, system wonks shat all over it for being incoherent, old-school, and cludgey. It lacked both the powergaming nobs and dials of 3E and the elegant math of 4E. A huge step back. A milquetoast compromise. Bound to fail. And yet here we are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's 'a lot of people'? Hundreds? The hardcores who spend hours a week arguing on forums don't matter much in the scheme of things. Not for companies that operate on the scale of Paizo and WotC. Paizo is looking to bring in thousands - tens of thousands - of gamers who don't hang out on forums and argue over the magic item economy, or the DPS of wizards vs fights.</p><p></p><p>PF2 is 90 per cent the same game as PF1, and 80 per cent the same game as D&D 5E. The things edition warriors argue over might move that dial a few degrees closer, but not enough to substantially affect the game's popularity in the wider market, to retain 90 per cent of PF1 players or bring in tens of thousands of 5E players. IMHO, Paizo's core skill is creating adventures, and if PF2 is going to take off, it will be on the back of popular adventure paths. Just my opinion - and that's all we can go on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haffrung, post: 7871008, member: 6776259"] When it comes to RPGs, I don't think system matters as much as the obsessives who post about systems on forums think. I mean, they matter. But not at the granular level that people get in spats over on forums. When D&D Next came out, system wonks shat all over it for being incoherent, old-school, and cludgey. It lacked both the powergaming nobs and dials of 3E and the elegant math of 4E. A huge step back. A milquetoast compromise. Bound to fail. And yet here we are. What's 'a lot of people'? Hundreds? The hardcores who spend hours a week arguing on forums don't matter much in the scheme of things. Not for companies that operate on the scale of Paizo and WotC. Paizo is looking to bring in thousands - tens of thousands - of gamers who don't hang out on forums and argue over the magic item economy, or the DPS of wizards vs fights. PF2 is 90 per cent the same game as PF1, and 80 per cent the same game as D&D 5E. The things edition warriors argue over might move that dial a few degrees closer, but not enough to substantially affect the game's popularity in the wider market, to retain 90 per cent of PF1 players or bring in tens of thousands of 5E players. IMHO, Paizo's core skill is creating adventures, and if PF2 is going to take off, it will be on the back of popular adventure paths. Just my opinion - and that's all we can go on. [/QUOTE]
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