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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7976116" data-attributes="member: 37579">From a design perspective? More than some PF fans like to admit. It gave me most of the same feels as reading 4e back in the day. There are totally differences, but considering PF1 was done as pushback for 4e it's surprising how much of the design ended up going in the same direction.From a sales perspective? Well... that's more complicated.It's pretty clear PF2 isn't doing as well as PF1 did in it's first couple year, and not as many groups converted as Paizo might have liked. Like less than 50% if judging by Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds. Quite a few people have stuck with PF1. Paizo staff are being upbeat and saying "people are just finishing that final 1st edition campaign" but I have my doubts: they had a year to do that before release. And I haven't seen a single big Kickstarter for a 3rd Party PF release. Necromancer games did a number of big PF1 books and had a great relationship with Paizo, doing Tome of Horrors Complete for Pathinder. They had a 5th Edition product on Kickstarter before WotC released the DMG and the PDF in the fan's hands by January.But even with half it's previous audience, Pathfinder 2 is still a success as far as roleplaying games are concerned, and probably comfortably making Paizo money. Which is a sad statement on the state of the industry and what other game lines are doing in terms of sales.</blockquote>