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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7977530" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Actually, this came from ENWorld. Just go to the news page and search for fantasy grounds.</p><p></p><p>As to the analysis, I agree it is pretty noisy. It is hard to say a lot about what is going on.</p><p>To me the interesting point are:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">PF2E bumped in August and then immediately fell off. (This tracks with the otherwise unrelated conversation in this thread)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">PF2E was back below PF by the 3rd month and stayed there for 6 months running now.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The pandemic bump showed a larger increase for PF than PF2E</li> </ol><p>And a couple points on that. It would be easy for me to go tribal and proclaim "PF is kicking PF2Es butt!! Ha Ha". That is not what I'm thinking or saying. I do not think that PF is doing particularly well. As is well established, it had fallen from it's peak and there is no doubt that PF2E didn't help. (Though simply making PF an unsupported game may have more to do with it than shuffling of players). So PF isn't kicking anything's butt. It is just that PF2E appears to be even weaker.</p><p></p><p>Second, there is enough variability in the data here that this chart can be over-interpreted. But six data points in a row is not considered random chance from a quality control point of view. And, the real kicker is, PF2E <em>should</em> (imo) be CRUSHING PF. </p><p></p><p>There is no question that PF2E is SELLING better. It is new. It has brand recognition. And everybody pretty much already owns PF stuff. (Obligatory massive kudos to 5E sustained sales here) But buying a game is one thing. Deciding it is the game of choice is another. I'm sure you could fill a nice convention with PF2E fans and they could echo chamber each other into being convinced that everybody thinks it hung the moon. But that doesn't change the indication that the overall market view is telling. This chart aligns with that bigger picture.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 7977530, member: 957"] Actually, this came from ENWorld. Just go to the news page and search for fantasy grounds. As to the analysis, I agree it is pretty noisy. It is hard to say a lot about what is going on. To me the interesting point are: [LIST=1] [*]PF2E bumped in August and then immediately fell off. (This tracks with the otherwise unrelated conversation in this thread) [*]PF2E was back below PF by the 3rd month and stayed there for 6 months running now. [*]The pandemic bump showed a larger increase for PF than PF2E [/LIST] And a couple points on that. It would be easy for me to go tribal and proclaim "PF is kicking PF2Es butt!! Ha Ha". That is not what I'm thinking or saying. I do not think that PF is doing particularly well. As is well established, it had fallen from it's peak and there is no doubt that PF2E didn't help. (Though simply making PF an unsupported game may have more to do with it than shuffling of players). So PF isn't kicking anything's butt. It is just that PF2E appears to be even weaker. Second, there is enough variability in the data here that this chart can be over-interpreted. But six data points in a row is not considered random chance from a quality control point of view. And, the real kicker is, PF2E [I]should[/I] (imo) be CRUSHING PF. There is no question that PF2E is SELLING better. It is new. It has brand recognition. And everybody pretty much already owns PF stuff. (Obligatory massive kudos to 5E sustained sales here) But buying a game is one thing. Deciding it is the game of choice is another. I'm sure you could fill a nice convention with PF2E fans and they could echo chamber each other into being convinced that everybody thinks it hung the moon. But that doesn't change the indication that the overall market view is telling. This chart aligns with that bigger picture. [/QUOTE]
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