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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7984167" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Your last point is absolutely true.</p><p>But I'll again point out that the multiple lines of evidence that it isn't doing any better than PF was doing isn't tied to the rankings. The rankings are clearly a potential positive sign because PF2E <em>IS</em> #2. But the value of that ranking is clearly very uncertain.</p><p></p><p>And, also, as has already been pointed out, comparing 2020 data to 2010 data it a bait and switch. PF was in the exact same #2 spot as recently as 2017. You are using ancient data, data which contradicts your data has been shown, the lack of significance of any of that data has been established. If we assume your case is 4 times stronger, we still end up with 4 X 0 = zero.</p><p></p><p>We didn't need ranking to know that PF was overtaking 4E. We were predicting that for months before it happened because you can tell by being engaged with the gaming community. We don't need rankings to tell us that 5E is massive. Seriously, one could claim that PF2E is right on 5E's heels based on just looking at rankings. And if we relied on rankings that would be as reasonable as any other assessment. But, because we can see the world around us, we know that isn't true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 7984167, member: 957"] Your last point is absolutely true. But I'll again point out that the multiple lines of evidence that it isn't doing any better than PF was doing isn't tied to the rankings. The rankings are clearly a potential positive sign because PF2E [I]IS[/I] #2. But the value of that ranking is clearly very uncertain. And, also, as has already been pointed out, comparing 2020 data to 2010 data it a bait and switch. PF was in the exact same #2 spot as recently as 2017. You are using ancient data, data which contradicts your data has been shown, the lack of significance of any of that data has been established. If we assume your case is 4 times stronger, we still end up with 4 X 0 = zero. We didn't need ranking to know that PF was overtaking 4E. We were predicting that for months before it happened because you can tell by being engaged with the gaming community. We don't need rankings to tell us that 5E is massive. Seriously, one could claim that PF2E is right on 5E's heels based on just looking at rankings. And if we relied on rankings that would be as reasonable as any other assessment. But, because we can see the world around us, we know that isn't true. [/QUOTE]
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