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<blockquote data-quote="fearsomepirate" data-source="post: 8195775" data-attributes="member: 7021420"><p>On Fantasy Grounds, Pathfinder is doing a little better, PF1 holding at 8%, and and PF2 having climbed to a total of 4%. Paizo's total share of FG has at least held steady on FG since 2017, when they had 11%. The market is almost twice as big as it was in 2016, so Paizo can afford to lose share without losing revenue. However, given what information we have:</p><p></p><p>1. Declining rank on Amazon</p><p>2. Declining share on Roll20</p><p>3. Stagnant share on FG</p><p></p><p>we can't do anything better than to say it's inconclusive. And really, what should we expect? PF1's brand identity was "3.5 Thrives!" Translation: "We're continuing that old product you love, since the IP owner is making something you hate!" Well, since 5e is apparently the most popular D&D product since the Mentzer box, both expanding the market and bringing back players who hated 4e (which I rather enjoyed), "Like the old thing you loved, not the new thing you hate" isn't sustainable, so where do you go from there? Paizo's now going for the niche of people who want to play something that is kind of like D&D, but have a very particular itch that's not being scratched. They have a leg up there due to higher brand recognition <em>among D&D players. </em>Far more D&D players have heard of Pathfinder than ACKS, 13th Age, Castles & Crusades, etc. But I don't see how they can realistically maintain anything like the share they had before 5e dropped.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fearsomepirate, post: 8195775, member: 7021420"] On Fantasy Grounds, Pathfinder is doing a little better, PF1 holding at 8%, and and PF2 having climbed to a total of 4%. Paizo's total share of FG has at least held steady on FG since 2017, when they had 11%. The market is almost twice as big as it was in 2016, so Paizo can afford to lose share without losing revenue. However, given what information we have: 1. Declining rank on Amazon 2. Declining share on Roll20 3. Stagnant share on FG we can't do anything better than to say it's inconclusive. And really, what should we expect? PF1's brand identity was "3.5 Thrives!" Translation: "We're continuing that old product you love, since the IP owner is making something you hate!" Well, since 5e is apparently the most popular D&D product since the Mentzer box, both expanding the market and bringing back players who hated 4e (which I rather enjoyed), "Like the old thing you loved, not the new thing you hate" isn't sustainable, so where do you go from there? Paizo's now going for the niche of people who want to play something that is kind of like D&D, but have a very particular itch that's not being scratched. They have a leg up there due to higher brand recognition [I]among D&D players. [/I]Far more D&D players have heard of Pathfinder than ACKS, 13th Age, Castles & Crusades, etc. But I don't see how they can realistically maintain anything like the share they had before 5e dropped. [/QUOTE]
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