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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The-Magic-Sword" data-source="post: 8199153" data-attributes="member: 6801252">I would say its a little more complicated than that, we basically have people getting into the game for story and socializing and they bring their friends, both themselves and their friends may or may not find themselves getting into "Crunchy and Customization" as time passes and they have more experience with the game. After all, many of the younger people getting into the game (20s and below, as opposed to people who played ADND and are coming back) have plenty of experience with that sort of thing from video games and enjoy it. Once they have experience with 5e... well there's a reason that community has gotten kind of complicated over the last couple of years, one of them is that its the most popular system so people want to keep playing it with their friends, but there's a growing frustration with WOTCs decisions in terms of game balance, expansion, and so forth. It isn't like, the majority of the playerbase or anything (even the community as a whole, is only a fraction of the casual base) but its still a chunk of people, in absolute numbers.</blockquote>