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<blockquote data-quote="The-Magic-Sword" data-source="post: 8206908" data-attributes="member: 6801252"><p>I just have a hard time maintaining boundaries under pressure, so I maintained it when you asked, and then folded shortly after when others asked-- also I was gonna go more in-depth and find the other threads and stuff for you. I just figured that would be a good starting point for Davies that took me maybe a minute and a half to find.</p><p></p><p>Also, honestly, the tone you demanded a citation in when I've yet to see any real quality information on the flip side of this debate isn't very inspiring, whereas Davies just expressed a desire to see it firsthand and that they were having trouble finding it. People asking the way you do usually seem to be playing 'gotcha' with some minor aspect of the information to spin it as invalid, or are trying to get me to play defense when their own information isn't very inspiring, so I'm kind of dragging my feet in providing because its all pretty accessible to anyone who actually wants to-- in other words, you haven't given me much to think going out of my way is a very good idea, whereas Davies has.</p><p></p><p>But incidentally to continue my trend of being awful at having boundaries, <a href="https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l4v5?What-about-a-Subscription-just-for-PDFs#13" target="_blank">here's another link</a> where they brought up that offering a pdf subscription would cause people to dump their physical subscriptions because the demand for the PDFs is much higher, and that most of the people who would do it 'already buy the pdfs manually' meanwhile this data IS a decade old. But in the years that would follow that statement ebook use would <a href="https://blog.submittable.com/wp-content/uploads/2b-A-Brief-History-of-the-Publishing-Industry.jpg" target="_blank">grow dramatically</a> though less than some expected (although interestingly some of that was likely due to <a href="https://blog.submittable.com/wp-content/uploads/3b-A-Brief-History-of-the-Publishing-Industry.jpg" target="_blank">increasing adoption of audiobooks in other areas of the publishing world</a>, which doesn't affect us, today audiobooks are VERY popular since you can do something else while you listen.)</p><p></p><p>So I have little reason to think PDF sales would be a small part of their offerings-- it doesn't have to be larger than published book sales for it to have affected a distortion in the amazon oriented data, especially since Paizo has its Subscribers and Physical Website sales, neither of which are represented through Amazon either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The-Magic-Sword, post: 8206908, member: 6801252"] I just have a hard time maintaining boundaries under pressure, so I maintained it when you asked, and then folded shortly after when others asked-- also I was gonna go more in-depth and find the other threads and stuff for you. I just figured that would be a good starting point for Davies that took me maybe a minute and a half to find. Also, honestly, the tone you demanded a citation in when I've yet to see any real quality information on the flip side of this debate isn't very inspiring, whereas Davies just expressed a desire to see it firsthand and that they were having trouble finding it. People asking the way you do usually seem to be playing 'gotcha' with some minor aspect of the information to spin it as invalid, or are trying to get me to play defense when their own information isn't very inspiring, so I'm kind of dragging my feet in providing because its all pretty accessible to anyone who actually wants to-- in other words, you haven't given me much to think going out of my way is a very good idea, whereas Davies has. But incidentally to continue my trend of being awful at having boundaries, [URL='https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l4v5?What-about-a-Subscription-just-for-PDFs#13']here's another link[/URL] where they brought up that offering a pdf subscription would cause people to dump their physical subscriptions because the demand for the PDFs is much higher, and that most of the people who would do it 'already buy the pdfs manually' meanwhile this data IS a decade old. But in the years that would follow that statement ebook use would [URL='https://blog.submittable.com/wp-content/uploads/2b-A-Brief-History-of-the-Publishing-Industry.jpg']grow dramatically[/URL] though less than some expected (although interestingly some of that was likely due to [URL='https://blog.submittable.com/wp-content/uploads/3b-A-Brief-History-of-the-Publishing-Industry.jpg']increasing adoption of audiobooks in other areas of the publishing world[/URL], which doesn't affect us, today audiobooks are VERY popular since you can do something else while you listen.) So I have little reason to think PDF sales would be a small part of their offerings-- it doesn't have to be larger than published book sales for it to have affected a distortion in the amazon oriented data, especially since Paizo has its Subscribers and Physical Website sales, neither of which are represented through Amazon either. [/QUOTE]
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