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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8059760" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>@[USER=6805135]briggart[/USER] It is great that you see things, but here are the relevant rules:</p><p>Let's break all of this down once more for the people that are being creative:</p><p></p><p>WHENEVER YOU MAKE AN ABILITY CHECK THAT LETS YOU ADD YOUR PROFICIENCY MODIFIER (COMMA) ...</p><p></p><p>This gives us the situation in which the ability is triggered. The comma clearly ends the condition, making it clear that this is the relevant criteria to trigger the ability.</p><p></p><p>… YOU CAN TREAT A D20 ROLL OF 9 OR LOWER AS A 10.</p><p></p><p>You get to treat one roll within an ability check as a 10 if it is 9 or lower. You do this AFTER you've rolled all dice and after you've determined the modifiers to be used (as you need to know whether proficiency is to be included), but only ONE SINGLE die result is changed.</p><p></p><p>WHEN (a special ability or spell tells you that you advantage or disadvantage on an ability check), YOU ROLL A SECOND D20 WHEN YOU MAKE THE ROLL...</p><p></p><p>As part of one ability check, you are rolling two dice. As only a maximum of one die is treated as a 10. The other roll is unmodified. </p><p></p><p>… USE THE LOWER ROLL IF YOU HAVE DISADVANTAGE.</p><p></p><p>If you have disadvantage, after treating one die roll of 9 or less as if it were a 10, you determine which roll is now lower. The roll that is treated as a 10 is lower if the other roll was an 11 or higher. If the other roll was 9 or lower, that roll is now the lower roll.</p><p></p><p>@[USER=15882]TaranTheWanderer[/USER] - This is not a reroll - it is a roll treated as another number so that phrase does not directly apply, although it does show the intent that separate rolls in advantage or disadvantage are independent rolls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 8059760, member: 2629"] @[USER=6805135]briggart[/USER] It is great that you see things, but here are the relevant rules: Let's break all of this down once more for the people that are being creative: WHENEVER YOU MAKE AN ABILITY CHECK THAT LETS YOU ADD YOUR PROFICIENCY MODIFIER (COMMA) ... This gives us the situation in which the ability is triggered. The comma clearly ends the condition, making it clear that this is the relevant criteria to trigger the ability. … YOU CAN TREAT A D20 ROLL OF 9 OR LOWER AS A 10. You get to treat one roll within an ability check as a 10 if it is 9 or lower. You do this AFTER you've rolled all dice and after you've determined the modifiers to be used (as you need to know whether proficiency is to be included), but only ONE SINGLE die result is changed. WHEN (a special ability or spell tells you that you advantage or disadvantage on an ability check), YOU ROLL A SECOND D20 WHEN YOU MAKE THE ROLL... As part of one ability check, you are rolling two dice. As only a maximum of one die is treated as a 10. The other roll is unmodified. … USE THE LOWER ROLL IF YOU HAVE DISADVANTAGE. If you have disadvantage, after treating one die roll of 9 or less as if it were a 10, you determine which roll is now lower. The roll that is treated as a 10 is lower if the other roll was an 11 or higher. If the other roll was 9 or lower, that roll is now the lower roll. @[USER=15882]TaranTheWanderer[/USER] - This is not a reroll - it is a roll treated as another number so that phrase does not directly apply, although it does show the intent that separate rolls in advantage or disadvantage are independent rolls. [/QUOTE]
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