Relics and Rituals 2: Ring of Clothing is 11,000 gp?

[Pielorinho]

So this may be a minor thing, but I was looking for a good magic item to add to a dragon's hoard, and I came across this item in R&R2.

Basically, the ring comes with four preset suits of clothes (e.g., cold-weather, adventurer's outfit, courtier clothes, and pajamas). You can, twice a day, use a standard action to switch suits of clothes instantaneously. The ring won't store magic clothes (cloaks of resistance, hats of disguise, etc.).

Now how much would you pay for this?

The book lists the price at 11,000, but this seems ridiculously high to me. Wear a ring of warmth on one hand and a hat of disguise on your head, and for 4,000 gp you've got much better capabilities than this ring offers (i.e., near-total protection vs. bad cold weather, some protectoin vs. cold-using monsters, and constantly-usable and far more flexible and complete disguise capabilities).

When setting up the dragon's hoard, I'm therefore counting the ring as 1,000 gp against the hoard's worth, not 11,000 gp. But am I missing something? Does this ring have some supercool use that I'm not thinking about, a use that makes it almost equivalent in value to a ring of chameleon (+15 to Hide)?

Daniel

 

[zorlag]

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Somewhere in ballpark of glove of storing... maybe 2000 gp, since it's useful but very limited magic item.

Z.

 

[LGodamus]

that price is horrid , unless there is some hidden benefit we arent seeing.

 

[Ravellion]

Switching magical vests might be reasonably cool. Still, it seems like a typo (double tapped the 1 perhaps?)

Rav

 

[Pielorinho]

Switching magical vests might be reasonably cool. Still, it seems like a typo (double tapped the 1 perhaps?)

Rav

Heh -- I thought maybe there was an extra 1 in there too, but the cost to make is 5,500, and the XP cost to make is 440. So unless they were double-tapping a lot of numbers, the price isn't a typo.

All the same, I think I'm going to modify it (allow a wearer to substitute in and out different articles of clothing) and figure its value at 2,000 gp instead of 11,000 gp. That seems fair to me.

Daniel

 

[Rel]

Listed price of Ring of Clothing: 11,000 GP

Fair price of Ring of Clothing: 1,000 GP

Being able to say, "Sorry I left my wallet in my other pants. *BOING* There's my other pants!": Priceless

 

[Pielorinho]

Listed price of Ring of Clothing: 11,000 GP

Fair price of Ring of Clothing: 1,000 GP

Being able to say, "Sorry I left my wallet in my other pants. *BOING* There's my other pants!": Priceless

Actually, in modifying the item, I took away this very cool possibility. The only way I could think of abusing the item would be using it as a weird bag of holding: wear clothes with huge, backpack-sized pockets, fill up the pockets, and then store the clothes, instead wearing a sleek svelte outfit. Or store forbidden weapons in other suits of clothes. To get around these possibilities, I declared that when you store a suit of clothes, the pockets are emptied. If your new suit of clothes has pockets, the previous suit's pocket-contents are transferred ot the new pockets; otherwise, the previous suit's pocket-contents are dumped on the ground.

Daniel

 

[Rel]

Actually, in modifying the item, I took away this very cool possibility. The only way I could think of abusing the item would be using it as a weird bag of holding: wear clothes with huge, backpack-sized pockets, fill up the pockets, and then store the clothes, instead wearing a sleek svelte outfit. Or store forbidden weapons in other suits of clothes. To get around these possibilities, I declared that when you store a suit of clothes, the pockets are emptied. If your new suit of clothes has pockets, the previous suit's pocket-contents are transferred ot the new pockets; otherwise, the previous suit's pocket-contents are dumped on the ground.

Daniel

Well hell, if you're taking away the possibility of the "wallet in my other pants" joke, drop the price in half again! I mean, that joke is at LEAST 50% of the value of the item.

Plus, they way you've described it, the owner of the ring is totally at the mercy of...that's right...Ethereal Underwear Gnomes!

"Step 3: Profit!"

Picture if you will, a poor, unsuspecting female adventurer whose player believes that her DM has a maturity level higher than a 12 year old. She goes to a ball dressed in a lovely gown. Then, to her great horror, she sees Suzy Farkinson (that wench!) in THE SAME GOWN! HORROR BEYOND IMAGINING! She quickly steps into an alcove, activates her Ring of Clothing and emerges...naked! Another hapless victim of the Ethereal Underwear Gnomes whose well known tendency to plunder extra-dimensional spaces for fine clothing (for purposes of "Profit!") has contrived to make her the laughing stock of the ball.

NO THANKS!

I'll take a Murlynds Spoon any day over that item!

 

[LokiDR]

I don't know if the folks over at Sword and Sorcery have a good concept of magic items in D&D. After all, didn't Relics and Rituals have no item costs and the statement "the DM should feel free to charge 10 times what he believes is a reasonable cost for the item."

 

[Pielorinho]

I don't know if the folks over at Sword and Sorcery have a good concept of magic items in D&D. After all, didn't Relics and Rituals have no item costs and the statement "the DM should feel free to charge 10 times what he believes is a reasonable cost for the item."

Hmm...that sort of worries me. The dragon's hoard is in an adventure by Monte Cook, and instead of using the normal DMG items he'd suggested (which are perfectly fine), I decided to spice things up by using unique items of equivalent value. I mostly stole ideas from Relics & Rituals 2, because that book is so full of yummy flavor, but now I'm worried that their equivalent values may be wildly off.

Oh, well. I made adjustments, and it's really only rule of thumb value anyway. And if some of the items are overvalued (a staff that grants +5 to craft skills and can cast minor creation, major creation, and fabricate is priced at 43K, which looks a little high to me), others appear underpriced (a +3 sword that functions as a ring of warmth and once a week allows the casting of a second-level and a fifth-level spell is priced at something like 19.5K, which looks awful cheap). So it'll probably all balance out.

And if it doesn't, too bad: I'm not really running my game by the strict numbers anyway.

Daniel