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Janx

Hero
So here's the question, is playing a game where you pretend to do horrible things to Eric's Grandma harmful?

There's a school of thought that says you should surround yourself with positive things. Happy people, etc, and stay away from negative things (criminals, abusive people, drugs, etc.).

FATAL seems to be a game about playing out deplorable acts. I suspect players could get into a one-upmanship of depravity. Basically spending more time thinking of horrible things to do.

How is this good for you?

Is it bad for you? Maybe not a in a scientifically proven way, but as a gut feeling of "yeah, it can't be healthy to spend 4 hours of game time thinking about the worst way to sexually assault Eric's Grandma."
 

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Dykstrav

Adventurer
FATAL seems to be a game about playing out deplorable acts. I suspect players could get into a one-upmanship of depravity. Basically spending more time thinking of horrible things to do.

How is this good for you?

Is it bad for you? Maybe not a in a scientifically proven way, but as a gut feeling of "yeah, it can't be healthy to spend 4 hours of game time thinking about the worst way to sexually assault Eric's Grandma."

Here is FATAL in a nutshell:

1) Take every conceivable negative stereotype about gamers.
2) Mix in every conceivable negative stereotype about underachievers in our society that you can find.
3) Describe the brutal, sadistic mechanics of sexual assault as a sort of proxy for understanding how people interact with one another.
4) Posit such infantile social retards (and their characters) as models of heroic behavior.
5) Just for good measure, in case you haven't offended everyone in the entire world just yet... Don't limit your rape to women in a fantasy world. Go over basic arithmetic and the English language for good measure. FATAL treats your cognitive functions much as the characters do to women in the setting.

Remember all the "satanic panic" stuff about D&D from the 80's? FATAL basically adopts this sort of BS as its creed. Anything you might have heard from a minister about D&D some 25 years ago is probably true in FATAL.

To me, this is what is most damning about FATAL. These "game designers" might actually get their product in front of non-gamers, who could conceivably believe that FATAL is representative of the entire gaming hobby.
 


malraux

First Post
For those considering possibly reading some of FATAL, here's an example of how bad it is: It's so bad, 4chan finds it offensive. Someone actually made a game of FATAL; flip to a random page, read the whole page, repeat until you punch your monitor. The winner is the one who can repeat the most. Remember that was a 4chan thread. The highest number was 4.
 

Orius

Legend
I suppose I should start with "in before the lock".

I have only read about FATAL, I have never read FATAL itself. I certainly have never played FATAL. I will be content to die without doing so. I know enough about that abomination to make these statements with perfect clairity. I will not view the video for that reason; and because I know damn well I don't have the sanity points to spare (if they aren't at 0 already).

Oh man, why are things like that so hard to resist?

It's schmuck bait.
 

BaldHero

First Post
I have read the review. Never read any of the game material.
If any three negative things from the review are true, the game is not for me.

But the video, i watched that. I turned the sound down after the first five seconds. Some of those images were craptacular, others were very creepy, and i can imagine some of them being inspirational for really creppy things in some of the horror games i have played or run in the past.
 


Stoat

Adventurer
a) The music was laughably bad.

"FATAL is the best roleplaying game I have ever seen!" = lulz

b) Some of the images were pretty cool, and I'd yoink them for any Far Realm/CoC game I wound up in.

So, how'd you find the images?
 

So here's the question, is playing a game where you pretend to do horrible things to Eric's Grandma harmful?

There's a school of thought that says you should surround yourself with positive things. Happy people, etc, and stay away from negative things (criminals, abusive people, drugs, etc.).

FATAL seems to be a game about playing out deplorable acts. I suspect players could get into a one-upmanship of depravity. Basically spending more time thinking of horrible things to do.

How is this good for you?

Is it bad for you? Maybe not a in a scientifically proven way, but as a gut feeling of "yeah, it can't be healthy to spend 4 hours of game time thinking about the worst way to sexually assault Eric's Grandma."
There's a sizeable amount of psychological research (at least on the topic of aggression, and to a lesser extent, pornography) that the "catharsis" approach -- i.e.: "getting it out of your system" -- doesn't actually get it out of your system, but rather desensitises you to it. This suggests, for example, that "punching a pillow when you're angry" actually teaches you that punching is an acceptable behaviour when you're angry, as long as the target is a pillow; "punching a pillow" therefore doesn't make you at all less violent when angry, and in fact, might gradually teach you to become more violent.*

So as far as playing FATAL goes, according to this theory, playing FATAL definitely won't "get the (depravity) out of your system". Over time, FATAL might actually normalise depraved behaviour in your mind.*

*The key difference between catharsis "not getting it out of your system" vs. catharsis "actually making things worse" is normalisation. If you punch a pillow only once, or pretend to commit some depravity for a game only once, you probably won't start to (subconsciously) feel this behaviour is normal, and therefore aren't likely to apply it other circumstances. On the other hand, if you punch a pillow every time you get angry, or pretend to be a pedophiliac rapist every Wednesday evening, eventually you will start to (subconsciously) feel that this behaviour is normal, and gradually you might become more likely to apply that behaviour in other circumstances. In short, if trying to "get it out of your system" becomes a habit, your effort is probably making things worse.

(This is why social workers, for example, can deal with abusive or drug addicted people all day without becoming abusive or addicted to drugs: the social worker probably never starts to think that being abusive or using drugs is "normal" or appropriate behaviour.)

I doubt that the scientific debate on this is settled, but this is the dominant belief on this matter in the psychological community these days, as I understand it.
 

Mikaze

First Post
It's so bad, 4chan finds it offensive.

This right here should settle the matter of just how deplorable FATAL is. If it doesn't, see the 1d4chan entry on the subject. AND SEARCH NO FURTHER.

Stop picking at the scab, fellas. It'll only get infected.
 

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