Remove my Account Please

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Merlion, I just reviewed the thread, and I can comfortably say that you're not attacked or abused in it. People disagree with you, yes, but they're disagreeing with your stance and position, not levelling personal insults at you. I'm sorry if you disagree, because frankly you're an interesting member to have in this community, but that thread is well within what's reasonable in a place where people meet to discuss rules and ideas.

Whether you stay or go is up to you, but I personally think this is a minor thing to leave a message board for. For reference, we don't remove accounts here. If you choose to leave we'll likely miss you, but your account isn't going to be removed upon request -- and you're always welcome back whenever you like.
 

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Piratecat said:
For reference, we don't remove accounts here.

you guys should reconsider this.

with email, bots, virus, and worms and such. if someone wants to be removed from the database you should allow it.
 

puleeze

sounds like an attention getting tactic to me.

sorry for not being supportive or whatever, but if you want to leave EN world then just leave. you don't need to start a thread saying "please get rid of my account, i just can't take it anymore!"

its like a fake suicide attempt or something.

(sorry to the mods if i've stepped over the line)
 

Well as diaglo just stated, there are practical reasons for wanting ones account removed.

And it isnt about attention, or at least not attention for me. Its about calling attention to a problem. I've been posting here for quite a while, and visiting the site since it first came into existence before 3e was released.
And of late, I've seen things go down hill steadily. This particular thread isnt the sole reason, its the straw that broke the camel's back.
Theres rules about what you can discuss and what words you can or cant use, but seemingly no rules requiring courtesy or anything of that nature. Being rude and unpleasant is perfectly acceptable, as long as you dont use any "bad words".
Add to that the general trend of total closemindedness as far as gaming issues go, and the tendency for that to build to hostility against anyone who has any new ideas or doesnt like the way something is, and, well I just dont see any point.
But yes if I go, I want it to be known why. I dont really want to leave these boards but if 1) theres going to be no real rules of conduct or enforcement thereof, and 2) mostly just a knee-jerk defending of the status quo as far as gaming etc goes to the point where you get your head bit off for suggesting a change...again I dont see a point in my participating.
 

Diaglo, Merlion, ever considered just changing the listed email address, thus eliminating the both / virus threat?

If you don't want to participate, good for you. I'm not going to get into the debate over code of conduct. But deleting accounts is a pain in the puck, so if you need to get rid of your account, just attach a patently false email address and be done with it that way.
 

Remember Merlion that not all people are completely fluent in english so we (who aren't) might use expression that appear to be rude to other, and vice-versa I might add.

But the largest problem IMO is the general degeneration of the language and courtesy on an IRL level. This will invariably influence the boards. I often find that people that are teens now a day (half my age) are incredibly rude when talking to eachother. This is seen as normal unfortunately.

Since you can't change society as a whole alone the most you can do is set a better example to follow.
 

Merlion said:
Add to that the general trend of total closemindedness as far as gaming issues go, and the tendency for that to build to hostility against anyone who has any new ideas or doesnt like the way something is, and, well I just dont see any point.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. You get all kinds on a board like EN World, some more closed-minded than others. Sure, Pax disagreed with you, but at least he explained why.

In reading through the thread, I note that brehobit, Shard O'Glase, HeavyG, and The Jester all agreed with your opinion that some modifications should be done to the spell in question. Dark Dragon, Psiblade, and Pax disagreed. Sounds like a healthy debate to me.
 

For reference, the rules of conduct are right here.

Merlion, I'm fairly cognizant of insults and abuse, but I honestly believe that you're being overly sensitive in that thread. I'm sure you don't agree, but that's how it looks to a neutral third party.


diaglo said:
You guys should reconsider this.

As Hellhound suggested, it's usually best for people to just change their email address and not post any more. I can disable an account to stop someone from posting on it, if they really like, but we don't remove accounts for two reasons:

1. It messes up all the posts made in the past.

2. Many people who publicly make a fuss about leaving and who demand for us to remove their accounts end up reconsidering after some time has passed. It's a lot easier for this to happen if the account still exists.
 
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Merlion said:
<snip>Theres rules about what you can discuss and what words you can or cant use, but seemingly no rules requiring courtesy or anything of that nature. Being rude and unpleasant is perfectly acceptable, as long as you dont use any "bad words".
Yes, this is often true, but it's also true pretty much everywhere IRL also Merlion. I read the thread, and Pax may have been a bit strong on you, really more just a little condescending, but he didnt flame you out. He really only disagreed with you in a slightly haughty manner, IMO.

People do that all the time. The waiter was like that to me at the last nice restaurant I went to.

Instead of just bailing, why not provide intelligent discourse in return that highlights and emphasises what you didnt like that he said, and maybe he would tone down a bit. Some people are immature, some guys are always spoiling for a fight, some people are just having a bad day, and some folks are merely passionate about a certain subject matter but are good folks nonetheless. You have no idea when someone rubs you the wrong way which of those it is. It's usually worth it to find out, and by challenging their viewpoint in an intelligent discourse you can usually, within a post or two, find out which it is.

Merlion said:
Add to that the general trend of total closemindedness as far as gaming issues go, and the tendency for that to build to hostility against anyone who has any new ideas or doesnt like the way something is, and, well I just dont see any point.
Man, you should visit the Wizards boards and a few others if you really want to see this. I had the nerve to disagree with Charles Ryan in a thread on the Wizards boards once (not even being nasty at all, merely disagreeing) and I received about a dozen PM's with all kinds of nastiness and fist-shaking (and bad spelling, and bad grammar...). I emailed Charles to make sure I didnt actually rub him the wrong way, and he wrote back that he actually enjoyed the debate we were having and the other folks should just grow up.

Anyway, hate to see you go, but if this truly affects you as strongly as you state, then do what you have to do. But I've had much worse arguments and rants with people on these very boards that I consider pretty good forum-friends, and we ended up shaking hands and getting on with life.

Just my 2 cents.
 

Merilon, I like your posts. I don't always agree with you, but I find your take on things interesting and I like interesting posters.

Maybe you need to take a break for a week or three, but don't burn your bridges. You may well discover that after a week or three you really miss ENWorld- or at least certain members! :)

Do what makes your life best, but ime burning bridges is rarely the answer.
 

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