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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 4991085" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>I have to agree with KarinsDad.</p><p></p><p>Some of the racial ability score modifiers sets are superior to others, somewhat balancing out the racial powers.</p><p></p><p>For instance, the eladrin teleport power is really good, but it's stat modifier set is mediocre (it modifies two stats that go for the same defense).</p><p>Versus a halfling whose racial power I'd say is less impressive but it's racial stat modifiers are good (modifying two different defenses)</p><p></p><p>So if the racial stat modifiers can "float" (as you propose) then I don't think you'll see many people going for the races that have mediocre racial powers (that would have had the better stat package) and instead take the better racial powers and customize the stat package to whatever they want.</p><p></p><p>There are other racial benefits tossed in (such as skills and languages) but i'm minimizing their impact for the sake of simplifying this post.</p><p></p><p>You'll just end up with some races never getting touched.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>As an aside, I don't see racial stat bonuses as a way of saying "everyone is excellent at stat X and Y" but rather, I see racial stat bonuses as a way of ensuring that the average member is higher. So it's not that all elves have 18, 19, and 20 dex and wis. But ratherm they can still have 18 strength etc and their dex and wis are just ensured never to be lower than 10 (presuming you start with the base 8).</p><p>Of course, it really means the same thing, I just see it from the bottom up perspective rather than top down. I guess that's part of the reason I never (or I should say hardly ever) -intentionally- assign my stat bonus to a primary stat, it often just ends up boosting something lower to round out some aspect that i envisioned higher for my pc's concept.</p><p>--</p><p></p><p>anyway, things may be different for your own group of players, so your experiences may well vary from my thoughts.</p><p>who knows, it might be a fun experiment to see what happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 4991085, member: 807"] I have to agree with KarinsDad. Some of the racial ability score modifiers sets are superior to others, somewhat balancing out the racial powers. For instance, the eladrin teleport power is really good, but it's stat modifier set is mediocre (it modifies two stats that go for the same defense). Versus a halfling whose racial power I'd say is less impressive but it's racial stat modifiers are good (modifying two different defenses) So if the racial stat modifiers can "float" (as you propose) then I don't think you'll see many people going for the races that have mediocre racial powers (that would have had the better stat package) and instead take the better racial powers and customize the stat package to whatever they want. There are other racial benefits tossed in (such as skills and languages) but i'm minimizing their impact for the sake of simplifying this post. You'll just end up with some races never getting touched. -- As an aside, I don't see racial stat bonuses as a way of saying "everyone is excellent at stat X and Y" but rather, I see racial stat bonuses as a way of ensuring that the average member is higher. So it's not that all elves have 18, 19, and 20 dex and wis. But ratherm they can still have 18 strength etc and their dex and wis are just ensured never to be lower than 10 (presuming you start with the base 8). Of course, it really means the same thing, I just see it from the bottom up perspective rather than top down. I guess that's part of the reason I never (or I should say hardly ever) -intentionally- assign my stat bonus to a primary stat, it often just ends up boosting something lower to round out some aspect that i envisioned higher for my pc's concept. -- anyway, things may be different for your own group of players, so your experiences may well vary from my thoughts. who knows, it might be a fun experiment to see what happens. [/QUOTE]
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