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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9176838" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>But that way—and I am not at all being facetious—lies 4e.</p><p></p><p>That's literally what a third of the complaints about 4e's design center on. That Wizards weren't allowed to be magic anymore...even though they only lost the absolute highest and most broken spells (like <em>wish</em>), with most utility magic becoming rituals which cost time and money and skill rolls rather than fire and forget spell slots instantly regained with a good night's sleep.</p><p></p><p>When you force Wizards to have to actually care about time constraints and costs, when you make it so they actually have to be <em>picky</em> about which utility spells they acquire and can only deploy a few a day without sinking actual gold into their power...they riot. And they're <em>very</em> good at the spin game. It's why Wizards have only grown in power and versatility in every other edition. Even 5e! They added Concentration...and then made Wizards the most flexible, adaptive version they'd ever been, with the ability to recharge slots to boot! Took away spell level cheese, but then gave auto-scaling reusable cantrips. Allegedly reduced the power of spells....only to grandfather in all the big exceptions.</p><p></p><p>If you can find a way to poke a hole in their armor, please, I'm all ears. I would <em>love</em> to live in a world where caster-fans aren't the ones dictating the terms for what D&D is allowed to be. Sadly, I have never seen such a world, and I'm not hopeful I ever will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9176838, member: 6790260"] But that way—and I am not at all being facetious—lies 4e. That's literally what a third of the complaints about 4e's design center on. That Wizards weren't allowed to be magic anymore...even though they only lost the absolute highest and most broken spells (like [I]wish[/I]), with most utility magic becoming rituals which cost time and money and skill rolls rather than fire and forget spell slots instantly regained with a good night's sleep. When you force Wizards to have to actually care about time constraints and costs, when you make it so they actually have to be [I]picky[/I] about which utility spells they acquire and can only deploy a few a day without sinking actual gold into their power...they riot. And they're [I]very[/I] good at the spin game. It's why Wizards have only grown in power and versatility in every other edition. Even 5e! They added Concentration...and then made Wizards the most flexible, adaptive version they'd ever been, with the ability to recharge slots to boot! Took away spell level cheese, but then gave auto-scaling reusable cantrips. Allegedly reduced the power of spells....only to grandfather in all the big exceptions. If you can find a way to poke a hole in their armor, please, I'm all ears. I would [I]love[/I] to live in a world where caster-fans aren't the ones dictating the terms for what D&D is allowed to be. Sadly, I have never seen such a world, and I'm not hopeful I ever will. [/QUOTE]
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