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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 9177048" data-attributes="member: 467">Ah, hyperbole directing attention away from an argument by way of minimizing an actual real world problem. A well worn tactic.This is you just making up stuff that other people are saying,a nd it is tiresome in the extreme. if you don't actual want to engage an argument, just don't.Plus, your suggestion that the "extremely popular" archetype is a fighter that plays like a wizard is, at best, suspect and probably a complete straw man. Instead, what is likely happening is that YOU personally want a fighter with lots of cool battlefield control and high damage capabilities. Cool. There are some awesome barbarian subclasses that do just that. I did not say people should not want that.What I said, the actual argument I was making that you chose to ignore in favor of yelling about victim blaming, is this: the game has a bunch of tools with which to build a character. it is incumbent on the player (with help, especially if they are new) to RTFM and pick the right tools to build they character they actually want to play.What is not reasonable is to actively choose something that lacks those abilities you want and then blame the GM for you not having a good time. It may be that the "fighter" you are looking for is actually a Barbarian subclass. But to know that you would have to RTFM.</blockquote>