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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9179821" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Yes...that's the point. It will regress to the mean. You will get a central tendency and a standard deviation--statistics. Those statistics can then tell you whether things are performing as desired.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you can't. That's why we actually collect statistical data, and do things like Monte Carlo simulations, rather than doing everything analytically. Some math questions cannot be easily answered analytically; some genuinely cannot be answered analytically <em>at all</em>. For example, any polynomial of at least degree 5 is not guaranteed to have analytic solutions--meaning, if you have something of the form y=ax^5+bx^4+etc., it may in fact be <em>impossible</em> to get a closed-form answer for the roots of that polynomial. It isn't that our math isn't good enough to do it; it is that we can <em>prove</em> that some degree-5 polynomials literally don't <em>have</em> solutions that can be calculated using elementary functions. For another example, partial differential equations often do not have analytic solutions; you just have to get good approximations. These are necessary for <em>literally anything</em> involving flow, e.g. movement of gases or liquids.</p><p></p><p></p><p>...except that it does matter. Because those are the exact questions the designers need to be asking. They need to <em>know</em> the input variables. They need to <em>know</em> the situations. That's how you test things! You're literally saying that because we can't get an analytic answer, no answer is possible. That's wrong! We can get numeric solutions, sometimes very very good ones. That's the whole point of modeling like this. Huge swathes of science today are, quite literally, built upon the back of creating very good computer simulations and then testing novel or unexpected variables to see what happens. That's how we do climate science, since we can't actually solve the differential equations involved and can't do meaningful experiments because we don't have a thousand other Earths to perform experiments on. That's how physicists test models of solar system formation, or the mechanics of how Earth's Moon formed, or literally anything at all involving gravity because the three-body problem does not have general solutions.</p><p></p><p>Assumptions will go into it. By definition, they must, because some went into the design of the game to begin with. As stated, this requires that you think very carefully about what questions you ask, how you ask them, what data you use to answer them, and whether the data actually supports any conclusions at all (let alone the ones you're looking for.) That's how statistical modeling works.</p><p></p><p>Just because it's statistical and simulated doesn't mean it's useless. It is exactly the opposite: that it <em>is</em> statistical means we can apply many useful things to it, which can help us seek useful results. Statistics and simulation are powerful tools; like any powerful tool, they must be used with care and diligence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9179821, member: 6790260"] Yes...that's the point. It will regress to the mean. You will get a central tendency and a standard deviation--statistics. Those statistics can then tell you whether things are performing as desired. No, you can't. That's why we actually collect statistical data, and do things like Monte Carlo simulations, rather than doing everything analytically. Some math questions cannot be easily answered analytically; some genuinely cannot be answered analytically [I]at all[/I]. For example, any polynomial of at least degree 5 is not guaranteed to have analytic solutions--meaning, if you have something of the form y=ax^5+bx^4+etc., it may in fact be [I]impossible[/I] to get a closed-form answer for the roots of that polynomial. It isn't that our math isn't good enough to do it; it is that we can [I]prove[/I] that some degree-5 polynomials literally don't [I]have[/I] solutions that can be calculated using elementary functions. For another example, partial differential equations often do not have analytic solutions; you just have to get good approximations. These are necessary for [I]literally anything[/I] involving flow, e.g. movement of gases or liquids. ...except that it does matter. Because those are the exact questions the designers need to be asking. They need to [I]know[/I] the input variables. They need to [I]know[/I] the situations. That's how you test things! You're literally saying that because we can't get an analytic answer, no answer is possible. That's wrong! We can get numeric solutions, sometimes very very good ones. That's the whole point of modeling like this. Huge swathes of science today are, quite literally, built upon the back of creating very good computer simulations and then testing novel or unexpected variables to see what happens. That's how we do climate science, since we can't actually solve the differential equations involved and can't do meaningful experiments because we don't have a thousand other Earths to perform experiments on. That's how physicists test models of solar system formation, or the mechanics of how Earth's Moon formed, or literally anything at all involving gravity because the three-body problem does not have general solutions. Assumptions will go into it. By definition, they must, because some went into the design of the game to begin with. As stated, this requires that you think very carefully about what questions you ask, how you ask them, what data you use to answer them, and whether the data actually supports any conclusions at all (let alone the ones you're looking for.) That's how statistical modeling works. Just because it's statistical and simulated doesn't mean it's useless. It is exactly the opposite: that it [I]is[/I] statistical means we can apply many useful things to it, which can help us seek useful results. Statistics and simulation are powerful tools; like any powerful tool, they must be used with care and diligence. [/QUOTE]
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