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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1450992" data-attributes="member: 4134">That is soooo 2nd Edition And this is even worse!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> No, seriously: 18s aren't that special in 3e, cause you can increase your stats every 4 levels, so most characters will eventually have an 18. Racial modifiers are also +2 instead of +1, and 25 isn't the best possible stat any more. So 18's aren't that badAnd rolls in order only screw your play. Wanted to play a wizard? Sorry, shouldn't have rolled badly the 4th time....Now about Rolling Dice vs. Point Buy (I use nothing but point buy now): If you use a random method, there will be stronger characters and weaker characters. If someone gets lucky and is supposed to reroll, he might start to wonder why he even bothers with rolling. Even worse is "roll till you get what you want". Why not just assign the stats as you like them?I have a nice story about rolling up ability scores (if you know it already, you can skip that, I've told it a couple of times already). In a new game, the DM wanted us to roll the stats (4d6, drop lowest, 7 times, drop lowest, increase one stat - heroic, but not quite 5d6). I asked him to use Point Buy instead, for I feared that someone got lucky again and extreme ability scores (we had a druid with starting Wis and Con 18 in the last campaign) will be the result. But he refused and said that he wanted to roll it. Guess what: There was another character with 2 18's - and it was minde <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> In the end, it was worth 55 or so Points in PB. As I told my DM "I told you", he admitted that he hoped for worse stats and used RD because of that.</blockquote>

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