I'm disappointed... This is the first Dungeon adventure not to have any new monsters for me to add to my random encounter generator.All the critters used are from the Monster Manual.
Sinruth isn't. And he's a solo!
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Sinruth isn't. And he's a solo!
The thing that I find the most jarring is just how 1st and 2nd level encounters consist of high level monsters like the Cave bear (6th level) and such. Oh, I know that the scale of what you can fight goes higher, I just didn't expect the math to work out for it to be so constant - two fang guards and a webspinner at first works out.
Vanuslux
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Sinruth isn't a new monster, he's a beefed up Hobgoblin. Personally, though, the fact that they stuck to MM monsters doesn't bother me much.
Since I'm here though, I suppose I may as well air my own complaints:
1. The poor organization, as I've already mentioned.
2. The do it yourself, look at your player's wishlist approach to treasure.
3. How complicated the first encounter is when it's the first encounter of a 1st level adventure for a virtually brand new rule set.
4. Three skill challenges in a row. While I understand the why behind taking stuff that used to be handled in one dice roll and turning it into something that takes several dice rolls but I find them a little tedious. Not so much that they bother me much one at a time...but putting three of them back to back...seriously...that's going to drive me up the wall if I ever run this adventure as written.
This is just the stuff that's jumped out at me from my second skimming of the adventure.
Edited to add:
5. Rechan reminded me of another thing that bugs me about the adventure. The second encounter is 1st level PCs against an 8th level monster and two 3rd level monsters. Granted, according to the DMG that's only a second level encounter, but it just strikes me as odd that in the second encounter of the adventure, the PCs will fight the most powerful individual monster in the adventure.
The more I look at this thing, the more of a mess it appears to be. The story is good, but the execution is not up to par.
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Zerakon
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Also, it has hoboblin minions mixed with goblin non-minions. Am I the only one bothered by the narrative problems with using minions that appear tougher than the non-minions they're fighting alongside?
I thought the adventure was fine. The first fight didn't bug me much, its hard on the DM, but easy on the PCs. I actually like the "do it yourself" gear, because it makes the gear less particular to a particular set of assumed PC classes. I'm not bothered by mixing hobgoblin minions with goblin minions, they're not that far apart in power level, and they don't necessarily look more powerful- one's a roguish type, the other's a thug. No reason the rogue can't be superior in a game like this.
The only thing I hate HATE HATE, is the lack of printable scale maps. There is NO EXCUSE for that.
The only thing I hate HATE HATE, is the lack of printable scale maps. There is NO EXCUSE for that.
catsclaw227
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I like it so far, and the issue with the two different types of minions aren't that big of a deal. My players accept the minion concept without any issue, and I can just chalk up two different minions together as "weaker" and "tougher" minions, though I agree that this is a design decision that I don't really agree with.
I may also try to do something with the three skill challenges in a row.
My big question.... will they be releasing the maps, unmarked, in a separate PDF or zip file. This is one thing that Paizo did well. Dungeon Magazine would also have a download of Hi-Res imags and maps in a separate file.
I may also try to do something with the three skill challenges in a row.
My big question.... will they be releasing the maps, unmarked, in a separate PDF or zip file. This is one thing that Paizo did well. Dungeon Magazine would also have a download of Hi-Res imags and maps in a separate file.
catsclaw227
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Double post.
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A. Malkov
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I vote for that!
But how we could say this to WoTC, in their forums? send a letter? an e-mail?
