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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3698652" data-attributes="member: 2011">The flaw in this thinking is that the Psion wins, even when he is Novaing.The Psion (or Wilder or whatever) has limitations:1) 80% of all psionic powers have a range of Close or shorter.2) Although he can manifest more than a single power per turn, Wizards can cast more than a single spell per round starting at first level if the Wizard has a Swift or Immediate spell as well. The Psion does not get to really manifest a lot of powers until mid-level and even then he is typically limited to 2 or 3 per round (whereas the Wizard tends to be limited to 2 per round).3) Psions have difficulty buffing others, cannot cast illusions, etc. There are many Wizard like abilities that Psions just cannot get (even simple ones like Mirror Image).The real difference is that the Wizard (or Sorcerer) runs out of high level spells quicker whereas the Psion can keep manifesting the equivalent of high level powers every round until he runs dry. That is the true strength of a Psion. It's not round one where he shines in encounter one, it's round four.Having played a fairly well tweaked out Elan Psion for 10 levels, I have to admit that the Psion is very self sufficient (she went unconscious once in 10 levels, mostly due to Resistence and Resilience, but those are Elan abilities). But, battles are not won solely with self sufficiency. Every battle won when I was playing that Psion was a team effort.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3698652, member: 2011"] The flaw in this thinking is that the Psion wins, even when he is Novaing. The Psion (or Wilder or whatever) has limitations: 1) 80% of all psionic powers have a range of Close or shorter. 2) Although he can manifest more than a single power per turn, Wizards can cast more than a single spell per round starting at first level if the Wizard has a Swift or Immediate spell as well. The Psion does not get to really manifest a lot of powers until mid-level and even then he is typically limited to 2 or 3 per round (whereas the Wizard tends to be limited to 2 per round). 3) Psions have difficulty buffing others, cannot cast illusions, etc. There are many Wizard like abilities that Psions just cannot get (even simple ones like Mirror Image). The real difference is that the Wizard (or Sorcerer) runs out of high level spells quicker whereas the Psion can keep manifesting the equivalent of high level powers every round until he runs dry. That is the true strength of a Psion. It's not round one where he shines in encounter one, it's round four. Having played a fairly well tweaked out Elan Psion for 10 levels, I have to admit that the Psion is very self sufficient (she went unconscious once in 10 levels, mostly due to Resistence and Resilience, but those are Elan abilities). But, battles are not won solely with self sufficiency. Every battle won when I was playing that Psion was a team effort. [/QUOTE]

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