Sylrae
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Ok. So the Idea is make drider a template, and allow the spider half to come from any spider that is 1 size category larger than the base creature. I dont think flat LAs would work I think it would need to depend on the type of spider. All the spiders give racial hit dice levels, so I'm not sure how much of an LA to give for each one. I assume the Racial levels are supposed to be roughly equivalent to class levels. This isn't all the spiders, but it's a good start.
I'm making lots of variants on Drow.
Oh. Also - I don't like how the standard drider is implemented, so I was thinking simethign similar to the tauric template, but not the same, and as mentioned, I dont think a Flat LA for all the creatures works. I only plan on using it for spiders though so there wont be THAT many variants with LAs.
Suggestions/LAs for each?
Drider Templates: (These templates are for medium creatures. For Small creatures, use medium sized spiders. The size of the spider needs to be one size category bigger than the humanoid for driderness.)
For all Drider Templates, the Base Creature’s physical stat modifiers are discarded before the template is applied.
Large Monstrous Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 30 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +2 Natural Armor
Abilities: +4 Str, +6 Dex, +2 Con
Special Attacks: Poison, Web
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Tremorsense 60, Vermin Traits,
This kind of drider gains 4 levels of aberration, giving it 4d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +1
Base Attack +3
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Monstrous Spider. Monster Manual page 88.
Web(Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Special Qualities:
Tremorsense (Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Skills: +4 Hide, +8 Climb. Can always take 10 on climb. Dex or Str for climb, whichever is higher.
The Hunter Variety of Monstrous Spider Driders get +8 to Jump and +10 to Spot.
The Web Spinner Variety get +8 to Hide and Move silently when using their webs.
Phase Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 40 ft.20 climb
Armor Class: +3 Natural Armor
Abilities: +6 Str, +6 Dex, +6 Con
Special Attacks: Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Ethereal Jaunt, Low Light Vision
This Kind of Drider gains 5 levels of Aberration, giving it 5d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +4, Will +1
Base Attack +5
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Phase Spider. Monster Manual page 208.
Special Qualities:
Ethereal Jaunt (Su): As a Phase Spider – Monster Manual page 208.
Skills: +8 Climb. Can always take 10 on climb.
Tomb Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 30 ft.20 climb
Armor Class: +5 Natural Armor
Abilities: +10 Str, +10 Dex, +8 Con
Special Attacks: Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, DR 5/Good
This Kind of Drider gains 8 levels of Aberration, giving it 8d8 hit dice
Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +1
Base Attack +8
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
3 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Tomb Spider. Monster Manual IV page 164.
Web(Ex): As a Large Tomb Spider – Monster Manual IV page 164.
Special Qualities:
Tomb Tainted Soul (Su): As a Large Tomb Spider – Monster Manual IV page 164.
Skills: +4 Hide, Listen, Spot. +8 Climb. +10 Jump. Can always take 10 on climb.
Large Sword Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 20 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +8 Natural Armor
Abilities: +8 Str, +4 Con
Attacks: Leg 1d6+4
Special Attacks: Poison, Impalement
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60,
This kind of drider gains 5 levels of aberration, giving it 5d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +1
Base Attack +3
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Sword Spider. Monsters of Faerun page 80.
Impalement(Ex): As a Large Sword Spider – Monsters of Faerun page 80.
Skills: +4 Hide, +6 Jump, +12 Spot
Large Spitting Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 40 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +6 Natural Armor
Abilities: +12 Str, +6 Dex, +8 Con
Special Attacks: Poison, Pounce, Spit Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Tremorsense 60,
This kind of drider gains 7 levels of aberration, giving it 7d8 hit dice
Fort +5, Ref +2, Will +2
Base Attack +5
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
3 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from glands in its mouth. The specifics of the poison as a Large Spitting Spider –. Drow of the page 142.
Pounce(Ex): As a Large Spitting Spider – Drow of the page 142.
Spit Poison(Ex): As a Large Spitting Spider – Drow of the Underdark page 142.
Special Qualities:
Tremorsense (Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Skills: +8 Climb, Move Silently, Spot. Can always take 10 on climb. +10 to Jump.
I'm making lots of variants on Drow.
Oh. Also - I don't like how the standard drider is implemented, so I was thinking simethign similar to the tauric template, but not the same, and as mentioned, I dont think a Flat LA for all the creatures works. I only plan on using it for spiders though so there wont be THAT many variants with LAs.
Suggestions/LAs for each?
Drider Templates: (These templates are for medium creatures. For Small creatures, use medium sized spiders. The size of the spider needs to be one size category bigger than the humanoid for driderness.)
For all Drider Templates, the Base Creature’s physical stat modifiers are discarded before the template is applied.
Large Monstrous Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 30 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +2 Natural Armor
Abilities: +4 Str, +6 Dex, +2 Con
Special Attacks: Poison, Web
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Tremorsense 60, Vermin Traits,
This kind of drider gains 4 levels of aberration, giving it 4d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +1
Base Attack +3
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Monstrous Spider. Monster Manual page 88.
Web(Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Special Qualities:
Tremorsense (Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Skills: +4 Hide, +8 Climb. Can always take 10 on climb. Dex or Str for climb, whichever is higher.
The Hunter Variety of Monstrous Spider Driders get +8 to Jump and +10 to Spot.
The Web Spinner Variety get +8 to Hide and Move silently when using their webs.
Phase Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 40 ft.20 climb
Armor Class: +3 Natural Armor
Abilities: +6 Str, +6 Dex, +6 Con
Special Attacks: Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Ethereal Jaunt, Low Light Vision
This Kind of Drider gains 5 levels of Aberration, giving it 5d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +4, Will +1
Base Attack +5
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Phase Spider. Monster Manual page 208.
Special Qualities:
Ethereal Jaunt (Su): As a Phase Spider – Monster Manual page 208.
Skills: +8 Climb. Can always take 10 on climb.
Tomb Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 30 ft.20 climb
Armor Class: +5 Natural Armor
Abilities: +10 Str, +10 Dex, +8 Con
Special Attacks: Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, DR 5/Good
This Kind of Drider gains 8 levels of Aberration, giving it 8d8 hit dice
Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +1
Base Attack +8
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
3 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Tomb Spider. Monster Manual IV page 164.
Web(Ex): As a Large Tomb Spider – Monster Manual IV page 164.
Special Qualities:
Tomb Tainted Soul (Su): As a Large Tomb Spider – Monster Manual IV page 164.
Skills: +4 Hide, Listen, Spot. +8 Climb. +10 Jump. Can always take 10 on climb.
Large Sword Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 20 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +8 Natural Armor
Abilities: +8 Str, +4 Con
Attacks: Leg 1d6+4
Special Attacks: Poison, Impalement
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60,
This kind of drider gains 5 levels of aberration, giving it 5d8 hit dice
Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +1
Base Attack +3
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
2 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from its wrists, allowing it to be applied to weapons or directly put into a target. The specifics of the poison as a Large Sword Spider. Monsters of Faerun page 80.
Impalement(Ex): As a Large Sword Spider – Monsters of Faerun page 80.
Skills: +4 Hide, +6 Jump, +12 Spot
Large Spitting Spider Variety:
Type: Aberration
Speed: 40 ft/20 climb
Armor Class: +6 Natural Armor
Abilities: +12 Str, +6 Dex, +8 Con
Special Attacks: Poison, Pounce, Spit Poison
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60, Tremorsense 60,
This kind of drider gains 7 levels of aberration, giving it 7d8 hit dice
Fort +5, Ref +2, Will +2
Base Attack +5
2+int skill points per level, quadruple for level 1
3 Feats
Special Attacks:
Poison (Ex): The Drider can excrete poison from glands in its mouth. The specifics of the poison as a Large Spitting Spider –. Drow of the page 142.
Pounce(Ex): As a Large Spitting Spider – Drow of the page 142.
Spit Poison(Ex): As a Large Spitting Spider – Drow of the Underdark page 142.
Special Qualities:
Tremorsense (Ex): As a Large Monstrous Spider – Monster Manual page 88.
Skills: +8 Climb, Move Silently, Spot. Can always take 10 on climb. +10 to Jump.
