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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7919732" data-attributes="member: 93670">I finished cantrips, first second & third level spells but not sure anyone is interested in adding new spells instead of just rearranging the existing deck chairsI like the old arcane/divine split because it plays into so much other fluff better than $class Spell, so I'm going to use arcane divine & primalarcane cantrips<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/etnpi4/spellglobe/" target="_blank">Spellglobe</a> Robe of patches, deck of many, so many other things dealing with arcane fit this motif and it explains why that pinch of dried flower & fernian dust for spells is not ruined when the party shipwrecks & washes up on shore. It also plays in with the "I've got a ritual for that" aspect of wizard's & some warlocks with their spellbook but with items.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/b2tzsg/pen/" target="_blank">pen</a> magically take a pot of ink & start writing?... this is deeply arcane</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/temporal-beat-27451934" target="_blank">Temporal Beat</a> This neatly solves the tug of war over misty step, it felt more arcane by mucking with timeline manipulation magic though. That and I don't remember what was on the other side of the tug of war</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/e1nf2j/action_image/" target="_blank">Action Image</a> There's no question that this is arcane, also it can fit with lots of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AayXf5aRFTI" target="_blank">shady</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXPsAa8Owco" target="_blank">stuff</a> that fits under AT/Bard/Etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"></li> </ul>Primal Cantrips<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/at9b8v/dress_undress_a_cantrip_by_meow_magic/" target="_blank">Dress/Undress</a> You could say this belongs under bard, but if you look at wildshape mechanics this is just a cantrip level component of wildshape's ability to equip theselves as desired when they shift & revert form</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bj0656/hairstyle_reupload/" target="_blank">Hairstyle</a> Might fit under bards, but it also explains why the lady of the forest has beautiful hair & fits with the dress/undress but for hair <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/b23csj/lions_maw/" target="_blank">Lion's Maw</a> Bite someone & deal some d8's? this is absolutely fitting under the primal tendwhere druid lay their head</li> </ul>Divine Cantrips<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/sweet-dreams-26187007" target="_blank">Sweet Dreams</a> The cleric blesses the worried refugees at night to soothe their soul & they sleep happily through the night without reliving the nightmares of the carnage they fled from!</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bki60n/mirror/" target="_blank">Mirror</a> This was tough because thematically it fits arcane magic well, but mechanically the effect is to make someone else awesome & I wanted to include something to prevent healbotism being enforced.</li> </ul>Arcane First Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/eing2s/eight_spells_from_december_ironbinds_dark_sphere/" target="_blank">Ironbinds</a> Fits well with arcane tropes with it conjuring chains to bash & restrain someone</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/buahfu/aerosphere/" target="_blank">Aerosphere</a> A more interesting Chromatic orb that has some duration, definitely arcane</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cpnz97/boomerang_sigil/" target="_blank">Boomerang Sigil</a> Two chances to connect with this works well for arcane types who aren't likely to have the kind of melee/ranged fallback options that primal & divine classes have.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/b2elj7/snap_star_reupload_art_addition/" target="_blank">Snapstar</a> Pretty much a flashbang that has con save or blind & some radiant damage, seems to fit well with acane casters.</li> </ul>Primal First Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/e9j1q4/chips_and_salsa/" target="_blank">Chips & salsa</a> Yea it's a bit whimsical in tone, but it fits great with the trope of fey food & fey tended fruit being an irresistible thing that comes at a price.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/evvmmo/belmont_smite/" target="_blank">Belmont Smite</a> Obviously the name is a bit problematic, but it fits well with the in your face stuff loading up in here.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/b9n9r9/mark_the_spot/" target="_blank">Mark the Spot</a> Kinda fits well with the fey-type mind manipulation.</li> </ul>Divine First Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cw0uzx/enchanting_gaze/" target="_blank">Enchanting Gaze</a> channel an aura into your eyes to incapacitate someone fits well with how divine casters keep the party up, there's nothing more demoralizing than knowing you & your buds can go all out & this caster could simply erase your work. Plus it meshes well with the make others awesome functionality of Mirror</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bgrcgd/doubleblade/" target="_blank">Doubleblade</a> Sure this could be self target, but this nicely fits with the ake others awesome role I'm rolling with here so far.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d50jot/medusas_gaze/" target="_blank">Medusa's Glare</a>, This one hasn't been posted to reddit yet but swrdmeow said it was probably a mistake he'd fix later.  Glare at a creature & it's petrified till the end of your next turn & it turns to stone if killed in that state.  Fits well with making others awesome too.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/e4nt2h/pool_of_fate/" target="_blank">Pool of Fate</a> lay out 5d6 & your allies can take a d6 on their attacks to help, continues thatmake others awesome theme & the "creatures you choose within range" gives the cleric who doesn't want to be a healbot from stupidity to withhold them from leroy jenkins when he charges in after being told no.</li> </ul>Arcane second Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/b1kd7t/transposition/" target="_blank">Transposition</a> At first glance this might seem like a fit for the fey aspects of primal, but you can transpose creatures and objects, Move that rock in front of your squishy friend where the mageslayer barbarian is standing & tada the barbarian is destroying the exposed bbeg next round.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/dvt846/underside/" target="_blank">Underside</a> Second level spells aren't something to be careless bout on a whim as early as first it's not getting used "just because" but this is something that can really involve the arcane types in scouting and exploration in ways other than just waiting behind without stepping on toes & primal/divine already has a lot of ways to do so or exert serious leverage over it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ewyy3f/weapons_kairos/" target="_blank">Weapon's Kairos</a> Divine types (often) have heavy armor, Primal have misty step, arcane types have blur & temporal beat, now they have this too.  I would improve it by making it ritual next attack in # hours though as it short circuits some of the "well obvious arcane casters are always soft targets" while playing into their preparedness tropes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ei4q1x/electric_nails/" target="_blank">Electric Nails</a> While this fits with the make others awesome theme for divine types, they already have a lot going there & this is definitely more fitting with an artificer style infusion handed over than the more direct & short range enhancement type things of divines.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ei4q1x/electric_nails/" target="_blank">Dark Sphere</a>Low powered necrotic fireball that keeps with the odd lack of ranged aoe's before fireball</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/el25rv/whats_mine_is_yours/" target="_blank">What's yours is mine</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/el25rv/whats_mine_is_yours/" target="_blank">What's mine is yours</a> Both of these fit nicely with the idea of arcane casters being masters of manipulating the fine details of "magic" rather than just masters of arcane magic & unable to even grasp the fundamentals of other types</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bzmrq4/hide_or_reveal_entrance/" target="_blank">Hide or reveal Entrance</a>  This fits  with the kind of sneaky stuff you might stereotypically expect to see in a mad wizard's sanctum of power, change it to be ritual & you also improve the state of things there</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cj76lq/freezing_feet_reupload/" target="_blank">Freezing Feet</a> I like things that force the battle to move sometimes & the method does a great job of fitting the arcane blasting theme while playing into the more ends justify means associated with black magic to impose restrained condition on a target who doesn't move</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d6uf0v/bareilles_armor/" target="_blank">Bareilles Armor</a> I was torn on this one because it feels like it might be OP for heavy armor divine types who already have paladin's +cha to saves plus healing & such. it notablyconflicts with barkskin(which is a crap spell in 5e & should be changed) but the save bonus & better as you need it more aspects seems to fit well with the kind of magical manipulation arcane casters have going un fluff & spells ike yours is mine/mine is yours.</li> </ul>Primal second Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cxpl08/healing_smite/" target="_blank">Healing Smite</a> Divine has cure wounds, beating the life into someone seems good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/epgai6/nock_nock/" target="_blank">nock nock</a> I think this does not fit arcane because arcane should be more magical but it's a nice fitting twist for rangers & druids in need of a DD nuke with an interesting twist that makes it not just "scorching ray but nature".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cr2lbm/voidhands/" target="_blank">Voidhands</a>  Fits with the force multiplier make others awesome even if the flavor is maybe wrong</li> </ul>Divine Second Level<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cj76xd/sunlight_strike_reupload/" target="_blank">Sunlight Strike</a>  Primal has daylight already & divine classes are known for using weapons so this fits well & gives them a unique way to invoke the sun's light.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cni0n9/fist_of_justice/" target="_blank">Fist of Justice</a>   a smitelike punch/slap that includes a knockback to let the party's healer/force multiplier make some space if someone is in their face.  Plus justice fits with divine</li> </ul>third level arcane spells<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cv87ql/load_the_smoking_gun/" target="_blank">Load the Smoking Gun</a> I don't really like the "smoking gun" name since there are worlds where they don't exist & worlds where they wouldn't exist because of the role of magic... but this fits nicely with the kind of visibly charging up massive amounts of power into a spell & fits the ranged aoe inclusions already present.  Plus it's not fire... tbh I hate the way fire dominates spells.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ejb0f2/monkey_see_card_in_comments/" target="_blank">Monkey See</a> Plunder someone's mind for a spell & swap it into your spells known or scribe to spellbook fits nowhere else. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/eljbdl/steps_of_a_tower/" target="_blank">Steps of a tower</a> It's not especially powerful, but this sort of latent scrying fits perfectly with arcane types keeping an eye on things while away.  The fact that it's ritual also does a nice job of adding to the poor selection of ritual spells in general.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/aewgjm/command_the_power_of_winter_and_petrify_your/" target="_blank">Freeze</a>  sort of a mix of to the divine caster's medusa's glare & arcane caster's <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cj76lq/freezing_feet_reupload/" target="_blank">Freezing Feet</a> , but all those saves  so I decided to go with the elemental.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ax2xwq/bind_reupload/" target="_blank">Bind</a> No question this is an arcane spell & has the added benefit of giving the wizard a useful little niche ritual spell for a situation gm's always need to improvise on with skill checks. now a wizard can be front & center proactively ritual casting this even if just in case.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/brrt7y/uries_warped_space_a_meow_magic/" target="_blank">Urie's Warped Space</a> an improved & longer lasting spin on transposition, this is great for warping reality to help the group rather than just dealing damage & it seems like primal/divine got a lot of nukes this level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/by0z7w/cosmic_vision/" target="_blank">Cosmic Vision</a> I like this for arcane casters because it lines up well with the fantastically complex Draconic Prophecy from eberron that predicts.... everything... dragons spend their entire lives trying to understand one little piece of it only to figure it out just as it's about to happen at the end of their lives & getting a glimpse of that kind of thing is sure to break the minds of anyone unprepared while it's exactly the kind of thing an arcane caster would attempt to deliberately gaze into.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/c0urn0/eyes_of_life/" target="_blank">Eyes of Life</a> Have you ever wondered why arcane casters live so long?  How else are they to calculate their theories undisturbed by the hassles of being a living breathing creature! Make it ritual & it just becomes an interesting if bizarre niche. It also means that you can't trust you are alone just because it's only you & the statues. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/c2clyh/disenchant/" target="_blank">Disenchant</a> A limited version of mage's disjunction isn't going to be making any friends, but you never know, sometimes an item is just too awful.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d866pi/double_lightning_helix/" target="_blank">Double Lightning Helix</a> Interesting take on lightningbolt shifting it from a line to a cone & much underused con save</li> </ul>third level primal spells<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cxtmbz/implant_phobia/" target="_blank">Implant Phobia</a> This goes nicely with the fey stuff that [USER=205]@TwoSix[/USER] suggested here & helps involve the druid types in subtle ways when in places that might not really have much of anything in the toolbox beyond awkwardly being the party's third wheel in settings like FR where druids are tree hugging hermits & nothing else.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ctvt2j/stunning_stomp/" target="_blank">Stunning Stomp</a> While it might conflict with thunderstep, it also gives a different option for primal types where one might value step's ability to teleport away while another might prefer the utility of  damage+maybe stun.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/eq90qv/primal_might/" target="_blank">Primal Might</a> Kind of a druidic themed version of <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d6uf0v/bareilles_armor/" target="_blank">Bareilles Armor</a> that fits nicely under primal</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/eiywba/grappleground_for_when_you_want_a_little_bit_of/" target="_blank">Grappleground</a> make the earty rise up against foes & grapple/damage them fits in with the nature aspects of primal magic.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/auwpgt/cold_iron_strike/" target="_blank">Cold Iron Strike</a> This fits nicely with fey both the name & teleporting, it also uses a weapon so fits nice for rangers & such but an argument could be made for arcane too I'm sure since it does cold damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/ay3zbn/snakemake_reupload/" target="_blank">snakemake</a> In some ways this is a mix of find familiar & conjure animals with a neat vampiric component where the caster is healed for half of the damage it does. it could go arcane, but really this feels more like i leans into the darker blue & orange morality side of druidic sects though & the ambiguity even fits well with how at least one sect was taught by a dragon & may have learned to mix druidic/draconic/arcane magic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bsd6pv/lesser_greater_consumption/?ref=readnext" target="_blank">Lesser Consumption</a> Again this fits great with both primal magic as well</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/bimmx0/bow_of_the_huntress_reupload/" target="_blank">Bow of the Huntress</a> This fits exceptionally well under primal on many levels . I wanted to include it on arcane instead for the artificer-ish feel but decided here was better thinking it would get more use</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cdsxby/avalanche/" target="_blank">Avalanche</a> An interesting druidic themed aoe with potential stun the shaking of the earth feels like it should go here more than divine & arcane doesn't really feel right either</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cj7k4d/royal_death_decree/" target="_blank">Royal Death Decree</a> You could even make this ritual for an interesting twist. Fey have royalty.</li> </ul>third level divine spells<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/aldyy0/meow_magic_greater_entomb/" target="_blank">Entomb</a> This was a tough one but in the end I decided that the ability to protect allies like that & religious ties to burials beat out the traditional arcane necromantic ties</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/ad4ym1/saving_hand_a_spell_of_courage_and_bravery_to/" target="_blank">Saving Hand</a> Not only is this a nice improvement on healing word, but it also lends weight to the divine caster/force multiplier's claim to shepherd & have their guidance be given significant weight among the party because it heals someone, stands them up in needed, & blasts the mob of baddies away some so escape is possible.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/e2izxf/rose_gate/" target="_blank">Rose Gate</a> This unquestionably fits into the force multiplier theme for divine casters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/c5426x/heavenly_prayer/" target="_blank">Heavenly Prayer</a> Drop prone & pray for pretty much everything people pray for & call in some heavenly being to give you a bit of a blessing goes here no questions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/c5l98g/occult_truths_and_lies/" target="_blank">Occult Truths and Lies</a> This fits nice with the force multiplier thing going on with divine so far.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/c60z8i/vampiric_allies/" target="_blank">Vampiric allies</a> This also fits nice with the force multiplier thing but in different ways.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d931j2/prehistoric_hail/" target="_blank">Prehistoric Hail</a> Fits well with the force multiplier aspect but an argument could be made for arcanebecause it's pulling it from the past...</li> </ul>Third level spells I'm not sure where to stick<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/cnxgmq/spiteful_swing/" target="_blank">Spiteful Swing</a> not really sure, perhaps because it's an oddballbut maybe the fey reap what you sow aspects lean towards primal?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/search/?q=LILIANDER%27S%20HELLSPEAR&restrict_sr=1" target="_blank">Liliander's Hellspear</a> A pierce/fire dd+10' pbaoe. I feel like divine is good for it because the spear is a little too prominent and divine could use a few more damage type options... But either could work.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/meowmagic/comments/d9k0i6/beacon_for_the_deluded/" target="_blank">Beacon for the deluded</a> I have no idea where to put this.</li> </ul></blockquote>

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