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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3975433" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Taking this and above responses into account, I'm not exactly happy.</p><p></p><p>1) I am not now nor will I ever be a supporter of D&D Insider (for a variety of reasons that needn't be reprinted here). If it isn't in print, its a 99% probability I won't be able to use it, and I know from other discussions on this board, I'm not alone.</p><p></p><p>Thats a problem not just for gnomes (which I do like to play), but for anything exotic that doesn't get the "PC" treatment (like the drow & minotaurs I played back in 1Ed that weren't supported until late 2Ed and 3Ed).</p><p></p><p>2) There are a lot of people who play in games/groups in which the only races DMs allow for PCs are those in the PHB- in fact most of the DMs in my group are like that (not me, though). Their presence in the MM alone is as good as telling those people to forget playing them. This is especially true if the MM-only races don't get the additional info Whizbang points out.</p><p></p><p>3) Spreading out this kind of info across setting books and other post-Core releases is going to get very expensive very fast. Not exactly consumer friendly, and again, it limits the info's utility. Like the MM-only races, many DMs of my acquaintence don't miscegenate races across campaigns- no FR Orc variants in Ebberon, no Warforged in Greyhawk, etc.</p><p></p><p>It also will potentially slow sales in the sense of people not wanting to commit to 4Ed until their pet race, class, or mechanic has been published. (See below.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed, 100%</p><p></p><p>This is making it look to me like I won't be buying much if <em>any</em> 4Ed beyond the Core I've already preordered. Gnomes are out until some unspecified later date & product, as are specialist wizards and a host of other things I really enjoy in 3.5.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 3975433, member: 19675"] Taking this and above responses into account, I'm not exactly happy. 1) I am not now nor will I ever be a supporter of D&D Insider (for a variety of reasons that needn't be reprinted here). If it isn't in print, its a 99% probability I won't be able to use it, and I know from other discussions on this board, I'm not alone. Thats a problem not just for gnomes (which I do like to play), but for anything exotic that doesn't get the "PC" treatment (like the drow & minotaurs I played back in 1Ed that weren't supported until late 2Ed and 3Ed). 2) There are a lot of people who play in games/groups in which the only races DMs allow for PCs are those in the PHB- in fact most of the DMs in my group are like that (not me, though). Their presence in the MM alone is as good as telling those people to forget playing them. This is especially true if the MM-only races don't get the additional info Whizbang points out. 3) Spreading out this kind of info across setting books and other post-Core releases is going to get very expensive very fast. Not exactly consumer friendly, and again, it limits the info's utility. Like the MM-only races, many DMs of my acquaintence don't miscegenate races across campaigns- no FR Orc variants in Ebberon, no Warforged in Greyhawk, etc. It also will potentially slow sales in the sense of people not wanting to commit to 4Ed until their pet race, class, or mechanic has been published. (See below.) Agreed, 100% This is making it look to me like I won't be buying much if [I]any[/I] 4Ed beyond the Core I've already preordered. Gnomes are out until some unspecified later date & product, as are specialist wizards and a host of other things I really enjoy in 3.5. [/QUOTE]
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