Ring of Blinking question

[kreynolds]

*bump*

Any fresh ideas, folks?

 

[aliensex]

Doesn't a ring of invisibility last as long as the user wants? I don't think it has a specified duration, so the ring of blinking probably goes until the user stops it.

As I (and many of us) have learned, the pricing system isn't absolute. So the prices of items aren't going to be 100% according to the item creation chart, its just a guideline. So, that doesn't give much info.

 

[kreynolds]

Doesn't a ring of invisibility last as long as the user wants?

That was my thinking, and still is.

As I (and many of us) have learned, the pricing system isn't absolute. So the prices of items aren't going to be 100% according to the item creation chart, its just a guideline.

You don't have to tell me that.

So, that doesn't give much info.

It gives more info than the description of the ring itself, which is very little. My posting of the price breakdown was only to illustrate that even the cost of the ring can't be used as a determining factor as to whether or not it is continuous, as too many variables conflict.

 

[James McMurray]

Any item that works as per spell X, will function in all ways like spell X. Thus, a ring of Blinking with a caster level of 7 will ast 7 rounds. A ring of invisibility with a caster level of 3 will last 30 minutes.

What's so confusing about that?

As for the cost, Monte has stated before that the two round increase in duration afforded by upping the caster level to 7 did not warrant using the full 3 x 7 x 1800, thus he lowered it by an arbitrary amount. After all, those formulae are just guidelines.

 

[kreynolds]

Any item that works as per spell X, will function in all ways like spell X.

One would think, but obviously, there's some confusion about this.

 

[James McMurray]

One would think, but obviously, there's some confusion about this.

That is apparent. The confusing part to me is trying to figure out why people think this is a confusing subject.

 

[kreynolds]

That is apparent. The confusing part to me is trying to figure out why people think this is a confusing subject.

Well, if you can't show me where this...

Any item that works as per spell X, will function in all ways like spell X.

...is stated in the rules, FAQ, errata, or anywhere else...or if you can't show me where this...

Thus, a ring of Blinking with a caster level of 7 will ast 7 rounds. A ring of invisibility with a caster level of 3 will last 30 minutes.

...is stated in the item descriptions, then you'll have your answer.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

kreynolds,

I think a large measure of confusion stems from the fact that the DMG rarely follows its own guidelines for pricing. The guidelines are merely vague suggestions with much fudging afterwards. The DMG prices are usually lower than the formulas would suggest.

Ring of Blinking is a perfect example. By the book, the cost should be 3 x 7 x 1800 = 37800 gp for a 7 rounds duration effect.

Even vanilla skill items do not follow the guidelines. Cloak of Elvenkind does. Eyes of the Eagle does not.

 

[kreynolds]

Eyes of the Eagle does not.

Sure they do. They're slotless items (I assume because you can wear just one if you want), thus double the cost of a normal +5 bonus. EDIT: Actually, I don't think it's cause they're slotless at all. It states that the lenses are 1000gp, but it also states that you need only wear one lense, but wearing both will prevent the discomfort. So, each lense is worth 500gp.

EDIT: Actually, what's confusing me is that I remember reading that rings are continuous unless otherwise stated, but I can't remember where I read that. I had originally thought it was at Andy Collins' site, but now I can't remember.

 

[Jeremy]

In my opinion, a ring of blinking or invisibility works when you put it on. It stays on until it is stopped (invisible person attacks) or the ring is taken off.

I think the text about working as the spell blink means just that, the effect it gives you is like the spell blink. It doesn't mean it has the casting time, duration, area of effect, or range of blink, just that when you put it on, you blink as per the spell description.

There are plenty of other ways to interpret it, but no rules, errata, FAQ advice, or Sage advice that handle it so it's pretty much whatever sounds right to your DM.