Spoilers Rings of Power is back!

[ART!]

He was quite the expert on holes in the ground, though (as long as they are not nasty, dirty and wet).

Nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole.

 

[ART!]

If this is the Iron Crown that held the Silmarils, it would have been used by the Valar to fashion a collar to chain and humble Morgoth after the War of Wrath. So I do not understand how it ended up in the hands of the Orcs. Was the crown "lost" during the War of Wrath? Then where are the 2 Silmarils it still held? Did the Valar retrieve the Silmarils and then just throw the crown away? However you tirn it, it doesn't make sense.

...just the next one in a long list of contradictions to the established canon and another reason I cannot take this series seriously...

Maybe Adar just thinks it's the real deal? Or is selling snake oil?

 

[ART!]

Well latest episode was half decent imho. The plot makes sense, characters are improved almost starting to care about some. It's consistent as well.

Negatives some episodes/scenes are a drag but most of season 1 was like that.

Was fun seeing Pharizun or whatever get thwarted.

I wouldn't call it great or even good. Watchable with the odd good bit. That's an improvement over S1 which was boring.

I'm feeling kind of the opposite: I mostly really liked the 1st season, and I'm finding this season a little lifeless.

Can someone tell me how the elves didn't know an army was massing on the other side of the hill across the river?

 

[TheSword]

Relevance to whom? The target audience?

It would seem entirely relevant - given the amount of negative pushback RoP has received.

What pushback? That Harfoots and elves couldn’t possibly be black? That Galadriel isn’t nice enough? I’ve seen the streamers. Better they don’t watch it and leave it to those that enjoy it.

The amount of affronted nerd rage this series has invoked is laughable.

 

[Maxperson]

Maybe, I’m pretty sure what was capable with media back then has changed a fair bit and he may have been a little more impressed with the Peter Jackson Films or the current series. We’ll never know.

None of the changes to what is capable with media matter. His issue was with changing or adding to the author's narrative. Making it a fancy change with modern CGI wouldn't make it acceptable to him.

 

[Maxperson]

That last part is key. Why do I care what he might think?

You don't have to, but once the movie/show deviates too far from the author's narrative, it ceases to be the author's creation. You can call the show Lord of the Rings, but it ain't Lord of the Rings. It's some other similar story with a bunch of familiar names.

 

[Maxperson]

For my part, I enjoyed the Jackson LotR movies immensely. I thought they were well-written, well-directed, well cast, well-acted, well-paced, logically consistent, and demonstrated robust characterization. I think they stand on their own merits, regardless of how closely they cleave to the books.

This. At first I disliked those movies, because of all the changes made. Then I realized that if I didn't view them as Lord of the Rings, but instead some epic fantasy movie series, and they were actually pretty darned good.

The Hobbit movies on the other hand...

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You don't have to, but once the movie/show deviates too far from the author's narrative, it ceases to be the author's creation. You can call the show Lord of the Rings, but it ain't Lord of the Rings. It's some other similar story with a bunch of familiar names.

Tolkien isn’t the author, Tolkien didn’t write TV shows. He wasn’t even a professional novelist.

 

[Maxperson]

Relevance to whom? The target audience?

It would seem entirely relevant - given the amount of negative pushback RoP has received.

This. There are a whole lot of us who want more fidelity to Tolkien's vision. It's very relevant to us.

 

[Maxperson]

What pushback? That Harfoots and elves couldn’t possibly be black? That Galadriel isn’t nice enough? I’ve seen the streamers. Better they don’t watch it and leave it to those that enjoy it.

The amount of affronted nerd rage this series has invoked is laughable.

There is very little fidelity in the show. They've taken rather large liberties with characters, timelines, story details and much more.