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<blockquote data-quote="Not a Decepticon" data-source="post: 9388239" data-attributes="member: 7020527"><p>I tag this Planescape because I consider all planar stuff Planescape, even if some of it is probably Forgotten Realms specific, and also other settings based on similair cosmology, like Pathfinder or your own homebrew worlds, are welcome.</p><p></p><p>I had a hard time researching it, and I couldn't really find much. It surprisingly does not seem to me there is much interactions or rivarly between beings of high enough power to be considered Powers, but not Gods. At least not across different groups. Usually a god will get few enemies and allies, but if you look at non-divine Archdevils or Demon Lords, they will have whole sections about enemies and rivals in their own group...and nothing on ones from the opposing group. I have only found few exceptions - Archdevil Zariel clearly is enemy of Demon Lords Yennoghu and Kostchtchie. Malkizid had obvious beef with Lolth, because of whom he fell from grace, even before she became a god. In Pathfinder lore Baphomet once royally trolled Asmodeus and Archdevil Nurgal and Demon Lord Nergal are enemies due to being part of one god, who was split in half as he fell.</p><p></p><p>Similiarly, we have good counterpart to these - Celestial Paragons. and again, I cannot find any info who are enemies of Lord Talisid and the Five Companions or Celestial Hebdomad. Things are a little bit better on the Court of the Stars, with Gwynharwyf being one of greatest enemeis of Demon Lords of Graz'zt and Kostchtchie, and Ascodel being infamously manipulated by the Pale Night...but even then he gave his life trying to atone for this. If we strech to other non-divine powers, then Morwel and Raziel are enemies of Imix, Prince of Evil Fire, due to aiding Zaaman Rul against him. In Pathfinder we have Empyreal Lord Ragathiel, son of Archdevil Dispater who hate his father.</p><p></p><p>Have you ever established interpersonal enmity or rivarlies between these types of powerful individual within the game you've run? Or maybe do you think some of them should share personal enmity?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Not a Decepticon, post: 9388239, member: 7020527"] I tag this Planescape because I consider all planar stuff Planescape, even if some of it is probably Forgotten Realms specific, and also other settings based on similair cosmology, like Pathfinder or your own homebrew worlds, are welcome. I had a hard time researching it, and I couldn't really find much. It surprisingly does not seem to me there is much interactions or rivarly between beings of high enough power to be considered Powers, but not Gods. At least not across different groups. Usually a god will get few enemies and allies, but if you look at non-divine Archdevils or Demon Lords, they will have whole sections about enemies and rivals in their own group...and nothing on ones from the opposing group. I have only found few exceptions - Archdevil Zariel clearly is enemy of Demon Lords Yennoghu and Kostchtchie. Malkizid had obvious beef with Lolth, because of whom he fell from grace, even before she became a god. In Pathfinder lore Baphomet once royally trolled Asmodeus and Archdevil Nurgal and Demon Lord Nergal are enemies due to being part of one god, who was split in half as he fell. Similiarly, we have good counterpart to these - Celestial Paragons. and again, I cannot find any info who are enemies of Lord Talisid and the Five Companions or Celestial Hebdomad. Things are a little bit better on the Court of the Stars, with Gwynharwyf being one of greatest enemeis of Demon Lords of Graz'zt and Kostchtchie, and Ascodel being infamously manipulated by the Pale Night...but even then he gave his life trying to atone for this. If we strech to other non-divine powers, then Morwel and Raziel are enemies of Imix, Prince of Evil Fire, due to aiding Zaaman Rul against him. In Pathfinder we have Empyreal Lord Ragathiel, son of Archdevil Dispater who hate his father. Have you ever established interpersonal enmity or rivarlies between these types of powerful individual within the game you've run? Or maybe do you think some of them should share personal enmity? [/QUOTE]
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