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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 61317" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Actually, I did not state that they were the defining factor. I stated that they were a glaring exception.</p><p></p><p>I guess if you've read the entire thread and still don't get it, nothing I can say to make you understand.</p><p></p><p>If you have not read the entire thread, bottom line it's because Sorcerers are not Wizards, they do not have a corresponding 1E class, and none of the 1E re-occurring arcane spell casting villains I ever ran across as either a DM or a player was as two dimensional as a Sorcerer. They all had more than a few spells, they all had more flexibility if encountered multiple times, and they all had spell book stashes, regardless of whether the PCs could find them.</p><p></p><p>Simple example: If an NPC arcane spell caster throws 3 Fireballs, 2 Magic Missile spells, and possibly a full round metamagicked spell at the group before being killed in 3E, what do you do next? Well, you probably search his body for magic items, but you may not search the room for spell books. In 1E, this exact same scenario would result in looting the body for items and expressly looking for spell books simply because all (house rules withstanding) arcane spell casters were Magic-Users in 1E.</p><p></p><p>All in all, a different feel. And, I also mentioned that the rest of each module did feel like 1E. This just happened to be a glaring (for me) exception to the feel. Kind of like your 14 year old daughter bringing home a cake that she baked in Home Economics at school, tasting it, and finding out that it's a Rum Cake. Not exactly the expectation for that situation. It's still a cake, but just not the kind of cake you would expect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 61317, member: 2011"] Actually, I did not state that they were the defining factor. I stated that they were a glaring exception. I guess if you've read the entire thread and still don't get it, nothing I can say to make you understand. If you have not read the entire thread, bottom line it's because Sorcerers are not Wizards, they do not have a corresponding 1E class, and none of the 1E re-occurring arcane spell casting villains I ever ran across as either a DM or a player was as two dimensional as a Sorcerer. They all had more than a few spells, they all had more flexibility if encountered multiple times, and they all had spell book stashes, regardless of whether the PCs could find them. Simple example: If an NPC arcane spell caster throws 3 Fireballs, 2 Magic Missile spells, and possibly a full round metamagicked spell at the group before being killed in 3E, what do you do next? Well, you probably search his body for magic items, but you may not search the room for spell books. In 1E, this exact same scenario would result in looting the body for items and expressly looking for spell books simply because all (house rules withstanding) arcane spell casters were Magic-Users in 1E. All in all, a different feel. And, I also mentioned that the rest of each module did feel like 1E. This just happened to be a glaring (for me) exception to the feel. Kind of like your 14 year old daughter bringing home a cake that she baked in Home Economics at school, tasting it, and finding out that it's a Rum Cake. Not exactly the expectation for that situation. It's still a cake, but just not the kind of cake you would expect. [/QUOTE]
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