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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Azaar" data-source="post: 29525" data-attributes="member: 1988">A combination of those two options are what would be the basis for the race I'm wanting to create, when it comes right down to it, with no real ability score adjustments.  This, by the way, originally came from a post I got on this same subject from the WOTC forum boards, thought I'd share it and garner more opinions.To be honest, what I was originally considering was something akin to Transformers, but I wanted to begin with just the base robot stats and all that. If they fall into the shapeshifter class (due to transforming), they'd likely require something like the Improved Control Shape feat that the MM gives you for lycanthrope characters, and I still am not truly certain that using that feat would be workable by itself.In addition, gathered from what I see of the size dimensions in the beginning of the Monster Manual, I may have to come up with a size above Colossal. Here's what I'm thinking as generalities for each size, and some examples of each:Medium: tape characters (Rumble, Frenzy, Rewind, Eject)Large: Minibots (Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, etc.)Huge: Standard Autobots/Decepticons (Ironhide, Wheeljack, Starscream, Thundercracker)Gargantuan: Leader types and large robots(Optimus Prime, Rodimus Prime, Dinobots, Megatron, Galvatron, Shockwave, Astrotrain, Jetfire/Skyfire)Colossal: Guardians (Omega Supreme), Gestalts (Bruticus, Defensor, Devastator, Computron, etc.)As you can see, I'm going need another size over and above Colossal, but that would be solely for the really huge guys, like Fort Max, Metroplex, Trypticon and Scorponok (the city transformers, basically).  I'm thinking something like this, thanks to the input of a friend:Titanic:  City-sized Transformers (Fort Max, Metroplex, Scorponok, Trypticon) -- additional advancement boosts as per p. 12 of the Monster Manual from Gargantuan to Colossal, with minor changes (+8 Str, no Dex change, +4 Con, +6 natural armor, -6 AC/attack)Developing a second size for something akin to Unicron is right out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  Sorry, but that sort of size is probably gonna be at least 10 scales over and above my newly created Titanic size... egads, that's pretty darned buff.In addition, I'm gonna have to find some way to scale the ability scores for each character (Given some of the info I've found on the web, for example, I'm figuring Optimus Prime to have something around a 51 Str, using the light load column of the Encumbrance tables in the PHB) so that the characters aren't just one-dimensional when it comes to their stats.</blockquote>

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