Roger E. Moore - the split-off Bond discussion

[Berandor]

Many people didn't like George Lazenby as Bond, but all I can say is: of all the Bonds, he was the one that hooked Mrs. Peel (Diana Rigg)! Way to go, George!

Johnathan

Yeah, but look what happened to her.

 

[Orius]

That is so 'Q' of you!

Sean made the role of Bond but Pierce Brosnan has been the best to fit the bill of Bond. Rodger was not bad but Tim and Lazenby just could not carry the role, which is very difficult in range; Bond being witty, charming, dangerous, lover, thug, dashing, adventous, smart, on-and-on.

I'd say Brosnan is a good Bond too. He does pull off the debonair sophistication of the role well, but he's also comes off well in the action sequences. He's a very believable Bond. Connery wasn't too bad either. I never cared much for Moore as Bond, he always seemed kind of wussy, like too much lover, not enough fighter.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I'd say Brosnan is a good Bond too. He does pull off the debonair sophistication of the role well, but he's also comes off well in the action sequences. He's a very believable Bond. Connery wasn't too bad either. I never cared much for Moore as Bond, he always seemed kind of wussy, like too much lover, not enough fighter.

What is interesting is the roles Brosnan took to show that he could play the range, he gained 30 odd pounds for his role in Nomands because he was thought to be too skinny, he did Taffin as a thug/fighter because it was said he could not play a tough guy.

 

[s/LaSH]

Brosnan is Bond, and Sean is Connery. If you see what I mean. Mr Connery is immensely charismatic and stuff, I have no complaints about him as Bond, but Brosnan is, hm, suaver, more stereotypically Bond than the original.

I've never been fond of Moore's Bond. To me, he's a smug fellow who does too-ridiculous things. Again, it's possibly the movies' fault, rather than his, but the fact remains, I've never seen a Moore Bond film I thought was classic Bond.

The other guys were OK, in my opinion. No complaints there.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Connery was Bond.

Roger Moore was Simon Templar.

Never the twain should cross...

The Auld Grump, yeah, Bond was more than a bit of a bully and thug - Moore kinda missed that...

 

[barsoomcore]

To those who haven't read the books -- you ought to. They're really really good. Fleming's Bond is one of the great characters of literature -- you just hate him sometimes but you can't stop reading about him.

THAT character has never appeared in a film -- I think the closest they ever came was On Her Majesty's Secret Service with George Lazenby. The movie Bond is much more of a super-hero who ends every adventure in bed with the girl -- I recall the end of Diamonds Are Forever (the novel, of course) where Bond gets dumped for an American! The books and the movies really have very little to do with one another beyond names and the basic idea of a British Secret Service agent.

That said, I've liked each of the Bond actors -- they're all quite different from one another and each have done well with the films they were given. I agree that Brosnan's getting shafted with rather poor films, but honestly, MOST of the Bond films have been pretty poor. Each of the actors has at least one good one, though, so you can't complain.

Or, I guess you could, but who would listen?

 

[frankthedm]

If you don't smoke- you are not Bond.

 

[barsoomcore]

If you don't smoke- you are not Bond.

You said it. Heck, if you don't smoke Morland's customs with three gold bands around the filter (lit by a silver Ronson), you are not Bond.

 

[Skarp Hedin]

Dang cigar-huffing Roger Moore. You know, those Montecristos he was sucking down ran into thousands of pounds a day, shooting.

It's kind of funny, in the non-Fleming Bond novels (I've read them all, and some are fine, some are even just about as good as Fleming's stuff, particularly Benson's set), Bond switches cigarette brands (Gardner, for no good reason), and then gives up smoking for a while. For his health, you know.

It never really seemed right, though.


Also, there're times when Moore comes off as a cold-hearted bastard as well -- he's the first Bond to shoot a woman, and there's a scene in, I believe, Moonraker in which he has a guy holding onto his tie, the tie being the only thing holding him balanced on the edge of a building, about to fall. As soon as he answers Bond's question, Bond knocks the tie out of his grasp and he falls to his death. All in all, however, Moore is mostly too goofy for me.