Rogue hiding where there isn't anywhere to hide

[kreynolds]

What if it wa avery dimly lit hallway with drab, stone walls. The halfling rogue is wearing drab colored robes, dirty from her last fight, and is huddled in a corner, silent and still.

Sounds perfectly reasonable. It would be harder than normal, but it shouldn't be impossible.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

Shard: I don't think using the nearly impossible rules of -20 in this case is absurd. Basically it would involve using the dust on the floor, a low point on the floor, every scrap of concealment that you could muster. And most likely you'll still fail, most people's spot isn't great but at -20 we are still talkign an easy spot.

I think there are 2 levles we're talking about. One there is litterally no place to hide, no low points, no dust, nothing in that case we're talking an absurd penalty like aura seers -50. If there is some shred of somehting to hide in where it is conceivable possible just highly unlikely to hide then a -20 penalty eems ok, and is actually very possible by a mid-level rogue.

 

[AEtherfyre]

I'm tossing in my agreement with the "needs 50% concealment" viewpoint. As an amusing side note, Blur provides 50% concealment.

 

[Balgus]

IIRC blur gives 20% concealment. inv gives 50% chance of miss...

 

[kreynolds]

As an amusing side note, Blur provides 50% concealment.

That would be amusing if it were true. You might be thinking of Invisibility or Displacement.

 

[AuraSeer]

Blur does provide one-half concealment, and one-half equals fifty percent. This translates to a 20% miss chance.

Invisibility provides total (100%) concealment, which gives a 50% miss chance.

Confused yet? =B^)

 

[kreynolds]

Blur does provide one-half concealment, and one-half equals fifty percent.

I misread his misquoted post. Go figure.

 

[Turin Turambar]

It says that a Shadowdancer can hide in plain sight, with any shadow present, except his own. Does this mean that the shadowdancer can hide in somebody else's shadow? The people walking down the hall are distracted, giving the chance for the shadowdancer to move up silently and hide in a shadow cast by one of the party..... possible?

 

[Shard O'Glase]

It says that a Shadowdancer can hide in plain sight, with any shadow present, except his own. Does this mean that the shadowdancer can hide in somebody else's shadow? The people walking down the hall are distracted, giving the chance for the shadowdancer to move up silently and hide in a shadow cast by one of the party..... possible?

Yes.

 

[MeepoTheMighty]

I once ordered the funniest book ever off of amazon. It was called something like "Secrets of Ninja Invisibility." It included such incredible ninja skills as "tapping-on-someones-left-shoulder-and-then-moving-to-the-right-so-that-they-don't-see-you-as-they-turn-left" and "tapping-on-someones-right-shoulder-and-then-moving-to-the-left-so-that-they-don't-see-you-as-they-turn-right." Ye gods that was a hillarious book. The illustrations were the best, since they featured a guy in a black ninja suit trying to hide from a guy in a white ninja suit. It was like spy vs spy, but with ninjas.