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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8790022" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Note the "probably" in my "Rogues have probably gotten buffed overall" statement. I didn't say it was 100% objectively true that my current view of the rogue is correct. It's uncertain how the Rogue will turn out in the long run. But the class got a bunch of buffs. That's objectively true. Their power has been significantly increased in a lot of ways. Whether or not the buffs increase their power to make up for the reaction/booming blade Sneak Attack and Hand Crossbows is undetermined and dependent on a lot of factors. A lot of the buffs weren't as situational. </p><p></p><p>They were not saying that rogues got buffed/nerfed overall. They said that Rogues got nerfed with no buffs at all. Which is flat-out untrue. And I didn't accuse them of lying, I said that their post was either a lie or they somehow missed a lot in the Rogue document. </p><p></p><p>I was trying to give a complete and objective account of all of the changes to the Rogue and measuring out how significant all of them were. I was trying to objectively measure the quantity and quality of all of the buffs. That's why I mentioned the number of buffs were higher than the number of nerfs and commented on most of the nerfs/buffs to explain how useful/detrimental the change is. </p><p></p><p>And, no, other people agreeing with you does not somehow suggest that my view is any less likely to be correct. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. There are a lot of topics that have quite a few people agreeing with the objectively incorrect view. The only thing you not being alone in your opinion suggests is that other people agree with you. Not the likelihood you are of being correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8790022, member: 7023887"] Note the "probably" in my "Rogues have probably gotten buffed overall" statement. I didn't say it was 100% objectively true that my current view of the rogue is correct. It's uncertain how the Rogue will turn out in the long run. But the class got a bunch of buffs. That's objectively true. Their power has been significantly increased in a lot of ways. Whether or not the buffs increase their power to make up for the reaction/booming blade Sneak Attack and Hand Crossbows is undetermined and dependent on a lot of factors. A lot of the buffs weren't as situational. They were not saying that rogues got buffed/nerfed overall. They said that Rogues got nerfed with no buffs at all. Which is flat-out untrue. And I didn't accuse them of lying, I said that their post was either a lie or they somehow missed a lot in the Rogue document. I was trying to give a complete and objective account of all of the changes to the Rogue and measuring out how significant all of them were. I was trying to objectively measure the quantity and quality of all of the buffs. That's why I mentioned the number of buffs were higher than the number of nerfs and commented on most of the nerfs/buffs to explain how useful/detrimental the change is. And, no, other people agreeing with you does not somehow suggest that my view is any less likely to be correct. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. There are a lot of topics that have quite a few people agreeing with the objectively incorrect view. The only thing you not being alone in your opinion suggests is that other people agree with you. Not the likelihood you are of being correct. [/QUOTE]
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