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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 8790428" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>I don't know. I could easily be confusing parts of the discussion involving you for someone else if we're talking about my overall feelings on the subject after reading this entire thread. I do think it was you that said that Steady Aim was out (which it's not ATM - at least not any more than it's out of anyone's game who's not using it as an option) which is, I think, what I was talking about at that moment.</p><p></p><p>Still, I don't mean for you to take it too severely. I just see a lot of fearmongering when it comes to playtesting. I mean, even the designers don't know what the final books will look like yet - that's the <em>whole point</em> of playtesting. So it's always strange to me when people read a thing in a playtest packet and assume that something is "<em>this way</em> <em>now</em>". It's NOT. It's "let's try it <em>this way</em> and see how it goes".</p><p></p><p>I mean look at the Crit rules. As far as we can tell, they scrapped the first packet's Crit idea before even getting feedback on it. The whole thing's in flux. There's only so much we should conclude from anything yet. Fear? Fine. It's reasonable to <em>worry</em> that any rule you don't like will continue forward. Conclude that it will for sure? Waste of time. IMO.</p><p></p><p>Note that I'm not saying YOU SPECIFICALLY are doing this. It's just all over the place, so I felt like talking about it. Right this second, I happen to be talking to you, but I assume others are reading it too. Much of what I'm saying are just my general thoughts on the subject.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, who knows how it will work? But so far, all we have to go on is the playtest specifically tells us to use any rules that aren't mentioned, and that the 50th Anniversary Books will be "backwards compatible" (whatever THAT means). Unless we're going to assume that they're either lying to us, or at least spinning it, and are wrong about those things, we ought not to go too far down the rabbit hole (I agree that a bit of skepticism is reasonable).</p><p></p><p>At least we shouldn't judge what we have with things we <em>assume</em> will happen. Again, IMO (and all that). Do what you like. That's my two bits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 8790428, member: 59816"] I don't know. I could easily be confusing parts of the discussion involving you for someone else if we're talking about my overall feelings on the subject after reading this entire thread. I do think it was you that said that Steady Aim was out (which it's not ATM - at least not any more than it's out of anyone's game who's not using it as an option) which is, I think, what I was talking about at that moment. Still, I don't mean for you to take it too severely. I just see a lot of fearmongering when it comes to playtesting. I mean, even the designers don't know what the final books will look like yet - that's the [I]whole point[/I] of playtesting. So it's always strange to me when people read a thing in a playtest packet and assume that something is "[I]this way[/I] [I]now[/I]". It's NOT. It's "let's try it [I]this way[/I] and see how it goes". I mean look at the Crit rules. As far as we can tell, they scrapped the first packet's Crit idea before even getting feedback on it. The whole thing's in flux. There's only so much we should conclude from anything yet. Fear? Fine. It's reasonable to [I]worry[/I] that any rule you don't like will continue forward. Conclude that it will for sure? Waste of time. IMO. Note that I'm not saying YOU SPECIFICALLY are doing this. It's just all over the place, so I felt like talking about it. Right this second, I happen to be talking to you, but I assume others are reading it too. Much of what I'm saying are just my general thoughts on the subject. Agreed. Yeah, who knows how it will work? But so far, all we have to go on is the playtest specifically tells us to use any rules that aren't mentioned, and that the 50th Anniversary Books will be "backwards compatible" (whatever THAT means). Unless we're going to assume that they're either lying to us, or at least spinning it, and are wrong about those things, we ought not to go too far down the rabbit hole (I agree that a bit of skepticism is reasonable). At least we shouldn't judge what we have with things we [I]assume[/I] will happen. Again, IMO (and all that). Do what you like. That's my two bits. [/QUOTE]
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