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<blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 9519969" data-attributes="member: 7040132">What is the fantasy trying to be fulfilled? A thug? Someone that roughs up other people to intimidate and steal from them, but is still good at being a rogue? (treating all simple melee weapons as finesse weapons opens up clubs and staves and other &quot;thug&quot;-themed weapon options, some sort of toughness ability, and better intimidation-style abilities rounds it out.)Or a frontline greatsword tank with sneak attack and mediocre rogue abilities?Because they aren't the same thing and your subclass doesn't encourage either.Your subclass, as designed, allows for lots of Str-based greatsword sneak attacks, with average Medium armor defenses, and mediocre rogue abilities, but it is better at giving lots of Dex-based rapier sneak attacks, with better Light armor-based defenses and great rogue abilities.(Edited to add a deleted section to the first paragraph.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mirrorrorrim, post: 9519969, member: 7040132"] What is the fantasy trying to be fulfilled? A thug? Someone that roughs up other people to intimidate and steal from them, but is still good at being a rogue? (treating all simple melee weapons as finesse weapons opens up clubs and staves and other "thug"-themed weapon options, some sort of toughness ability, and better intimidation-style abilities rounds it out.) Or a frontline greatsword tank with sneak attack and mediocre rogue abilities? Because they aren't the same thing and your subclass doesn't encourage either. Your subclass, as designed, allows for lots of Str-based greatsword sneak attacks, with average Medium armor defenses, and mediocre rogue abilities, but it is better at giving lots of Dex-based rapier sneak attacks, with better Light armor-based defenses and great rogue abilities. (Edited to add a deleted section to the first paragraph.) [/QUOTE]

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