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Rogue + Warlock + Assassin using multiclass and hybrid equals "win"
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<blockquote data-quote="Ajar" data-source="post: 5127533" data-attributes="member: 85901"><p>Fleeting Ghost arguably allows a Rogue|Warlock hybrid with Shadow Walk (via Hybrid Talent) to do this at will at level 2. It isn't clear-cut, so it's the DM's call as to whether this works; my DM allowed it, and I'm playing one. </p><p></p><p>The reasoning is that Fleeting Ghost explicitly grants you a stealth check regardless of whether you meet the conditions for becoming hidden. Normally you'd immediately lose the hidden status on account of not having cover or concealment, but a character with Shadow Walk doesn't have that problem. </p><p></p><p>Also, I'm not sure that hybrids can paragon multiclass. Try doing it in the Character Builder -- it doesn't let you take the power-swap feats in time, because you have to have three powers of the type in question at the time you take the power-swap feat. </p><p></p><p>I actually multiclassed my tiefling Rogue|Warlock into Assassin, but I did it to get Shadow Step. What can I say, the character has an eladrin inferiority complex. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> I wanted to take power-swap feats as early as possible, but I don't see a way to take even the encounter one before level 8, since I get my third encounter attack power at level 7. </p><p></p><p>I would probably have made an Assassin or hybrid Assassin if we hadn't already been playing a long time when the Assassin class was released. The hybrid Rogue|Warlock was my pre-Assassin effort to build a sneaky guy who teleports a lot. It's a lot of fun to play, though, even in a fight -- he's mainly a melee attacker, but he's really squishy, so each turn is a balance between the risk of getting pummeled and the chance of dealing lots of damage with a Rogue power. I think a ranged version would be vicious, but it would also be a lot less fun for me -- I like the risk vs reward game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ajar, post: 5127533, member: 85901"] Fleeting Ghost arguably allows a Rogue|Warlock hybrid with Shadow Walk (via Hybrid Talent) to do this at will at level 2. It isn't clear-cut, so it's the DM's call as to whether this works; my DM allowed it, and I'm playing one. The reasoning is that Fleeting Ghost explicitly grants you a stealth check regardless of whether you meet the conditions for becoming hidden. Normally you'd immediately lose the hidden status on account of not having cover or concealment, but a character with Shadow Walk doesn't have that problem. Also, I'm not sure that hybrids can paragon multiclass. Try doing it in the Character Builder -- it doesn't let you take the power-swap feats in time, because you have to have three powers of the type in question at the time you take the power-swap feat. I actually multiclassed my tiefling Rogue|Warlock into Assassin, but I did it to get Shadow Step. What can I say, the character has an eladrin inferiority complex. :P I wanted to take power-swap feats as early as possible, but I don't see a way to take even the encounter one before level 8, since I get my third encounter attack power at level 7. I would probably have made an Assassin or hybrid Assassin if we hadn't already been playing a long time when the Assassin class was released. The hybrid Rogue|Warlock was my pre-Assassin effort to build a sneaky guy who teleports a lot. It's a lot of fun to play, though, even in a fight -- he's mainly a melee attacker, but he's really squishy, so each turn is a balance between the risk of getting pummeled and the chance of dealing lots of damage with a Rogue power. I think a ranged version would be vicious, but it would also be a lot less fun for me -- I like the risk vs reward game. [/QUOTE]
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