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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Soulknife_Infiltrator" data-source="post: 9217067" data-attributes="member: 7040881">Actually, you're the one who's been refusing to see the MATH, I've already write those down on my post of How Second Wind Better Than Rogue In Skills before Level7, and you refused to even look about it, and I have no interest repeating myself again. But since you're asking, here's what it is: In my recent playtest with my friends, the new Fighter with Second-Wind and without any intentionally leaning into skills, had outpaced my Thief Rogue in skill checks before level7, which was a really surprising result to me.There aren't so many failed skill checks between short-rests at all, let alone it costs nothing if that D10 isn't making you pass. But before level 7, all I've got was a few more +2/3 to skills. Nothing could compared to +D10 to skills that you've failed. The only Rogue I can think of to compete this is Soulknife Rogue.And again, two more +10% isn't helping when your "opponent" is a D10 to every failed skills, and it also costs nothing if it's been a failure again. It's just Soulknife Rogue being mixed into Fighters.Lastly, I've already said that your data is out-dated, and there's no comparison made by Treantmonk after UA8.It's OUTDATED.</blockquote>