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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 9218149" data-attributes="member: 6801299">never managed to understand that someone thinks that rogues are OP. Sure, they can be fun to (role)play, but that is it.Outside some unholy abomination of an assassin multiclass build, they are bottom tier with monks in 5E, closely followed by non-Gloomstalker ranger, which is together with Hexblade warlock a hot-fix on a class.They tried with Mercy monk, which is decent.also, returning to 3,9,13,17 subclass levels was also very bad decision.Good things are being sacrificed on altar of compatibility, which in the end will be thrown out of the window as no one will use 5E materials in 2024 game without lots of house rules just a year in from printing of new books.</blockquote>